X factor

[aquarius moon]

Just searched this & nothing came up. I'm sure there is a yearly thread on this somewhere.

If not, guess this will have to be the new one!

[Otta]

So who do you like?

[Strawbs]

I am usually a huge fan but I dnt love it this year and if jaws didn't insist on watching it I'd not turn it on. If I had to choos it would be the homeless kid with the glasses..

[Annette Curtain]

Really, some people.

*swishes hair-files nails*

http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?20,942351,951572#msg-951572

[aquarius moon]

Otta Wrote:

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> So who do you like?

More a case of who DID I like!

Melanie! But unfortunately she went home last night. Can't believe that she was even in the bottom 2.

Also like Ella (think she will probably win)

James is good.

Rylan, no comment.

[aquarius moon]

Annette Curtain Wrote:

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> Really, some people.

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> *swishes hair-files nails*

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> http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?2

> 0,942351,951572#msg-951572

Sorry AC, but when I typed in X factor, nothing came up!

Probably better to have a new thread anyway. It is a new series after all.

[Otta]

I was surprised about Melanie, but I thought Kitty was good a year or two ago, but the voters don't seem to like women over 25.

I like Lucy.

I thought Rylan starting with Back for Good was brilliant.

[El Pibe]

gems from this week's live blog

"Now for Union J, who had a nightmare last week by basically singing the loading noise of a Commodore 64 game."

"We're back. Next up is Ella Henderson, who is so obviously going to win X Factor this year that we may as well give her the recording contract now, knock off early and all watch Merlin together...

Ella, who has unfortunately come as Stars In Their Eyes Adele, is singing Lovin? You by Minnie Ripperton. It?s a song that serves a dual purpose. First it showcases her flawless voice. And second, it proves that she?s inherently phobic of high-tempo songs. Just like Leona Lewis was. Leona, don?t buy anything on hire purchase for the next few months. This one?s coming for your job.

Goodness, this is quite excellent. Seriously, just let Ella win it now. We can move Christmas forward if that helps."

"This week, James Arthur took Nicole Scherzinger to a pub. Because that's what he does. He goes to the pub. He only uses cutlery that's been carved from wood. He's suspicious of computers and electricity. He's authentic, see?"

"Nicole is more of a fan, telling the group that they're like an apple pie, but one that needs ice cream and Tabasco sauce and baby oil. Nicole Scherzinger really, really needs a decent meal. Can someone mail her some chips or something?"

[DulwichFox]

I.M.H.O. Leona Lewis is the only person with any star quality to come out of X-Factor.

Every year we have the 'Novelty Act' Wagner , Johnny , Jedwood, and this year Rylan.

The whole programm is a Farce.

This is the worst year. The early Live Shows have not helped.

Fox

[Otta]

Otta Wrote:

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> I was surprised about Melanie, but I thought Kitty

> was good a year or two ago

Weirdly I am currently in a Haven holiday camp listening to Kitty's live set. To give her her dues, she is singing well and has back up dancers and the full on look and stage show.

She seems to talk with an American accent now though, and I can't see her ever getting beyond this circuit.

[Otta]

And now she is doing a photo call with the kids, and anyone taking their own photos will be ejected from the venue.

She is also selling t-shirts, leggings, badges and lots of other expensive things that kids will demand of their parents.

But she's working hard at it, so fair play.

[El Pibe]

I guess doing the holiday camp circuit is, strictly speaking, 'changing your life' though probably not what the teary-eyed hopefuls are dreaming of as they bandy that term about.

What a fantastically insightful snapshot in to the world of the post-x factor world Otta!!

[DJKillaQueen]

I sometimes think as well that one of the downsides of a show like X factor is in how it feeds the truly deluded. There has always been mediocrity in popular music, just as not everyone that suceeds in that world is truly talented. X factor just reminds us of that.

I agree with the consensus that this years crop are mediocre on the whole. Only three stand out for me at the moment and I'm not sure any of those are likely to sell large numbers of records (which is what it is all about at the end of the day). Matt Cardle is the last flop to be dropped sharpish by his label.

[El Pibe]

I was struck by something the soppy norn irish girl said on the voice *insert obligatory floods of tears* "I'm from a small town in county Fermanagh (or whichever) and this is my only way out, this means literally everything to me"

Well, I guess you could do well at school, get yourself some qualifications and apply for a job in a place you'd like to live, you know, like everyone else in the world.

Is this just the directors encouraging this sort of hyperbole to format, or has the cult of celebrity bred a generation who genuinely think like this?

[Pickle]

El Pibe, I couldn't agree more. These kids just don't seem to get that you can also achieve gret things by getting an education and a "real" job.

I watch the show every year (small kids, no life), but find every year I hate it a little more. James is the only one that does anything for me, but I doubt he will get to the final as historically anyone with a slightly rock edge gets kicked out. Probably because the people that like him (people like me) don't waste money voting on these shows.

I was on a plane with the dreadful long haired Brazilian bloke a couple of years ago. Even more creepy in person than he seemed on the show.

[*Bob*]

El Pibe Wrote:

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> Well, I guess you could do well at school, get

> yourself some qualifications and apply for a job

> in a place you'd like to live, you know, like

> everyone else in the world.

Kids these days, eh? Tut.

> Is this just the directors encouraging this sort

> of hyperbole to format, or has the cult of

> celebrity bred a generation who genuinely think

> like this?

I wouldn't get too worked-up about it. It's no worse than going to a job interview and telling the interviewer that, say, you can work independently as well as part of a team. The required bullshoite is trotted out by most candidates as pertaining to the job they seek. This job requires you to explain, once a week, that your life is over should you not get through. Six weeks on the checkouts during the summer of 2013 will sort them out.

[El Pibe]

I know, as a sort of understudy to your archcynicism, that I should take it all with a pinch of salt, but I can't help feeling that these programs not only manipulate young impressionble types (or older should know better frankly types), but that it has managed a sort of pervasive spread of these values in a way that that the amaterurish, rather tawdry likes of Opportunity Knocks never managed.

Anyhow, Bah Humbug etc.

Hmm, I should really make that my signature if I didn't find signatures so irritating

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Bah Humbug Etc.

[*Bob*]

I agree. But on the other hand, they're young (most of 'em). They've got the remainder of their whole lives for the hard face of reality to repeatedly kick them up the arse. If they can't enjoy some fleeting, deluded dream - if but for a moment - before that boot connects with their bum, then when?

[Asset]

But sadly, that glimpse of a fleeting deluded dream can reverberate through the rest of their lives and lead them to some sort of expectation of fame and fortune without them actually having to be a valid member of society.

This in turn leads to depression and torpor and .....oh my god.... I'm giving too much away.

[TillieTrotter]

Chuckles.

[maxxi]

Asset Wrote:

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> But sadly, that glimpse of a fleeting deluded

> dream can reverberate through the rest of their

> lives and lead them to some sort of expectation of

> fame and fortune without them actually having to

> be a valid member of society.

> This in turn leads to depression and torpor and

> .....oh my god.... I'm giving too much away

"Minipops" you have a lot to answer for!

[Annette Curtain]

I can't help but enjoy it.

It adds a glow of absurdity to Winter viewing and it's bloody well put together. Of course many get gobbled up in its monster, though in the end who-cares-who-wins, I just like the drama.

I've not purchased a single-record-cd-download (yet) since it started. But I still love it, so what if it manipulates the wannabe's to the nth degree, it's not exactly hiding that strategy.

And to win this year ?

That young girl who can sing, Ella Henderson.

After the final, I couldn't give a fig.

[Otta]

What Annette said, pretty much word for word.

Have been watching for about the last 4 series now. Never start right at the beginning, tend to dip my toe in the water a week or two before judges houses.

Louis Walshe does ruin it a bit for me though, he's a moron, and a sleaze.

[aquarius moon]

So we are all looking forward to tomorrow night then?!

I will be here with my top 3, bottom 2 etc but don't for one minute expect the judges/viewers to agree, as they seem to be on another planet!

[El Pibe]

"Oh, thank heavens. He's not doing I Will Survive. He's doing Say A Little Prayer For You. This is absolutely a Jahmene song by the numbers. Shaky start, more confident middle, and an ending that sounds like a dolphin running for a bus, falling down the stairs and setting itself on fire."