Nurse that took hoax call

[Jeremy]

Maybe the answer is that with any sort of hoax call or hidden camera show, you will need to get the consent of the "victim" before broadcasting it.

[Michael Palaeologus]

Indeed Jeremy, indeed.

Anyway, I for one have said all I have to say, so wont be posting on this post anymore.

Thanks for what has been a very interesting debate.

[KidKruger]

MP:

"Even if the intent is not to bully but just to "have a bit of fun", if the impact is that somebody feels bullied, its is bullying. "

No. If you feel bullied but there was no bullying intent, that's not bullying. That's perhaps being over-sensitive.

Same for feeling someone is being rude, boasting etc.

Let's not go down the route of if you feel it, it MUST be the case.

Otherwise you're never going to take the piss out of anyone again, be snide, or sarcastic.

We're not Germans goddamnit !

[LondonMix]

Agree!

KidKruger Wrote:

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> MP:

> "Even if the intent is not to bully but just to

> "have a bit of fun", if the impact is that

> somebody feels bullied, its is bullying. "

>

> No. If you feel bullied but there was no bullying

> intent, that's not bullying. That's perhaps being

> over-sensitive.

> Same for feeling someone is being rude, boasting

> etc.

> Let's not go down the route of if you feel it, it

> MUST be the case.

>

> Otherwise you're never going to take the piss out

> of anyone again, be snide, or sarcastic.

> We're not Germans goddamnit !

[Sue]

Jeremy Wrote:

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> Maybe the answer is that with any sort of hoax

> call or hidden camera show, you will need to get

> the consent of the "victim" before broadcasting

> it.

xxxxxxx

Very good point.

[the-e-dealer]

So she hung herself. This may or may not be directly or indirectly linked to the Radio Prank. I wouldn't want to have anything to do with the prank while there is the slightest possibility I had contributed to this terrible outcome. Its so sad I don't even want to associate on here with anyone who says "hey its no-ones fault" and other childish failures to see the effects people can have on others. So I too feel this is the end of the conversation.

[Otta]

Thank God for that!

['bout now]

Or we could wait for the inquest where the details of the suicide note will be shared with the coroner.

Then you can have someone to point at and blame. If that makes you feel better.

[LondonMix]

This might be bullying Otta...:)

Otta Wrote:

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> Thank God for that!

[red devil]

Sue Wrote:

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> Jeremy Wrote:

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> -----

> > Maybe the answer is that with any sort of hoax

> > call or hidden camera show, you will need to

> get

> > the consent of the "victim" before broadcasting

> > it.

>

> xxxxxxx

>

> Very good point.

I thought this did happen with hidden camera show pranks, seem to remember on Trigger Happy that some faces got fuzzed out, whereas others didn't, so presumed that the fuzzed out ones either hadn't been told they had been filmed, or they didn't agree to their faces being shown???...

[red devil]

the-e-dealer Wrote:

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> ...This may or may not be

> directly or indirectly...

1/10 You're doing it again! :)

[LondonMix]

Were they able to release either of the nurses' names? What would be the equivalent of a fuzzed out face on the radio?

red devil Wrote:

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> Sue Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Jeremy Wrote:

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> > -----

> > > Maybe the answer is that with any sort of

> hoax

> > > call or hidden camera show, you will need to

> > get

> > > the consent of the "victim" before

> broadcasting

> > > it.

> >

> > xxxxxxx

> >

> > Very good point.

>

> I thought this did happen with hidden camera show

> pranks, seem to remember on Trigger Happy that

> some faces got fuzzed out, whereas others didn't,

> so presumed that the fuzzed out ones either hadn't

> been told they had been filmed, or they didn't

> agree to their faces being shown???...

[red devil]

LondonMix Wrote:

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> Were they able to release either of the nurses'

> names? What would be the equivalent of a fuzzed

> out face on the radio?

I don't think there could be a radio equivalent if it was live or even slightly delayed, as it all relies on the voice, nothing visual. If it was pre-recorded, then maybe it could be edited/pulled. A lot of radio prank calls back in the day were set-up in conjunction with someone knowing the 'victim', e.g. a relative, same with some TV e.g. Game For A Laugh, so they would've been fairly certain beforehand that the 'victim' would've taken the prank in good spirit...

[LondonMix]

Yes, I suppose the sound of one?s voice is very identifying, even without a name being released etc. Somehow, I feel that I could recognize all my relatives if I saw them on TV with just their faces blurred. I can't explain, how or why but for my husband I am 100% positive that would be the case.

[Loz]

Michael Palaeologus Wrote:

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> Even if the intent is not to bully but just to "have a bit of fun", if the impact is that

> somebody feels bullied, its is bullying.

>

> That the media have been able to behave in this way for so long doesnt make it right.

Actually, there is probably a greater chance that this woman did not commit suicide directly as a result of the prank call (since she actually played such a small part in it) but because of subsequent hounding by the UK media.

But, again, until the result of the inquest is made known it is all speculation.

[uncleglen]

I don't understand why she blamed herself - Kate Middleton is a human like the rest of us- when my other half was in ICU after a traffic collision I gave my mobile number to a nurse and after that I was plagued with calls from companies offering their legal services- not all hospital staff have scruples.

[DJKillaQueen]

red devil Wrote:

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> I thought this did happen with hidden camera show

> pranks, seem to remember on Trigger Happy that

> some faces got fuzzed out, whereas others didn't,

> so presumed that the fuzzed out ones either hadn't

> been told they had been filmed, or they didn't

> agree to their faces being shown???...

That's because certain TV shows have all persons appearing sign clearance (effectively permission to use the material and a waiver to any copyright) forms before broadcast. It protects them from being sued.

[StraferJack]

Now we can look at some proper bullying

http://bit.ly/W84Wj7

[El Pibe]

God, can you imagine what the reaction would have been if they'd made the call from a mobile phone whilst driving a car?

*polishes freshly engraved bullet*

[Loz]

Looks like the glare of publicity is now going shine on the hospital and its staff...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/dec/13/jacintha-saldanha-suicide-notes

[????]

To all those screaming and shreaking Bullies BULLIES all over the Internet at the moronic Aussies djs, where does that put you if one of them commits suicide? Just askin'

[Otta]

Totally agree Quids!

Although please stop saying "just asking" ;-)

[????]

Just sayin

[Otta]

*aims shotgun at Quids*