side effects post vaccine

[AylwardS]

For those about to have their second dose. I know of someone (40?s with underlying health conditions) who suffered side effects for a few days with the first dose of AZ. He?s just had his second dose and had a bad headache for 4 hours but no further side effects.

Side effects with second dose much less as hoped.

The side effects of the vaccine would be much less than how you?d feel with Covid from what I?ve heard from those who have had it. Even a bad reaction to the first dose was nothing compared to Covid.

[zenoria65]

Had first AZ five weeks ago, that night blurred vision, thrush, mouth ulcers, rash/lumps on face and body, blistered eyelids, nausea, vomiting, diarrhoea, insomnia (couldn't keep anything down except water for a week). Five weeks on and still have all the same side effects, although I can now eat... I won't be having the second jab

[Penguin68]

What does your doctor say? Have you reported these? These side effects are very extreme and I believe pretty unusual. Certainly in lasting so long. And remarkably rapid in their onset for some, i.e. thrush.

[zenoria65]

Penguin68 Wrote:

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> What does your doctor say? Have you reported

> these? These side effects are very extreme and I

> believe pretty unusual. Certainly in lasting so

> long. And remarkably rapid in their onset for

> some, i.e. thrush.

I have yellow carded it. I would rather drown in a bucket of seagull poop than visit any NHS medic ever again. I was treated with scorn and derision for asking questions. I?m not the only one who has had these reactions - my niece got thrush the same day she had her jab....

[Penguin68]

I cannot see the mechanism where an anti viral innoculation can precipitate a novel yeast infection in under a day. It must have been existant and hidden and the vaccine knocked out your own previous defence mechanism from masking it. If a blood relative suffered similarly then you may have a genetic predisposition which let's the vaccine weaken your defences in this way.

[zenoria65]

Penguin68 Wrote:

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> I cannot see the mechanism where an anti viral

> innoculation can precipitate a novel yeast

> infection in under a day. It must have been

> existant and hidden and the vaccine knocked out

> your own previous defence mechanism from masking

> it. If a blood relative suffered similarly then

> you may have a genetic predisposition which let's

> the vaccine weaken your defences in this way.

She?s not a blood relative. I know what side effects I have and continue to suffer. I don?t need to be lectured or patronised...

[Cyclemonkey]

Thrush is a fungal infection so it seems doubtful a vaccine can "cause" it. It may be a symptom of lowered immune defences.

[zenoria65]

Cyclemonkey Wrote:

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> Thrush is a fungal infection so it seems doubtful

> a vaccine can "cause" it. It may be a symptom of

> lowered immune defences.

Blistered eyelids, blurred vision, nausea, vomiting, rash/lumps on face and body - but sure, it's just a coincidence??

[Cyclemonkey]

No idea but it sounds like hives from an allergic reaction. However the causes of Thrush are fungal. It is an infection, so unlikley to be directly caused by a vaccine, but you can be vulnerable to Thrush if your body and immume system is run down.

[zenoria65]

Cyclemonkey Wrote:

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> No idea but it sounds like hives from an allergic

> reaction. However the causes of Thrush are

> fungal. It is an infection, so unlikley to be

> directly caused by a vaccine, but you can be

> vulnerable to Thrush if your body and immume

> system is run down.

Blistered eyelids, blurred vision....

[Cyclemonkey]

How about you ask a medical professional. I have no idea.

[precious star]

Everybody reacts diffrently to things that are put in our bodies, no human is the same. We can all have very diffrent reactions to many diffrent things whether it be: food, make up, environment, medications,animals (etc). Sometimes even medical proffesionals cant give you an answer to why your body may have reacted in a certain way, and sometimes its only the individual who knows their own body,may even have to get a second or third opinion from a medical proffessional before they even get diagnose a correct cause to a sympton. No one should be afraid to ask questions!! Its your body and only you know it well.

[zenoria65]

Cyclemonkey Wrote:

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> How about you ask a medical professional. I have

> no idea.

Funny because you seem to have a very opinionated opinion....

[zenoria65]

precious star Wrote:

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> Everybody reacts diffrently to things that are put

> in our bodies, no human is the same. We can all

> have very diffrent reactions to many diffrent

> things whether it be: food, make up, environment,

> medications,animals (etc). Sometimes even medical

> proffesionals cant give you an answer to why your

> body may have reacted in a certain way, and

> sometimes its only the individual who knows their

> own body,may even have to get a second or third

> opinion from a medical proffessional before they

> even get diagnose a correct cause to a sympton. No

> one should be afraid to ask questions!! Its your

> body and only you know it well.

Indeed but sadly I have only ever been treated with scorn and aggression from NHS staff. So I have no faith in them whatsoever, including members of my own family...

[Guest]

Flare ups in autoimmune diseases are triggered in a matter of hours, not days. Typically, intolerance to a sudden yeast overgrowth (and other proteins misbehaving) causes a sort of chain of symptoms that attack usually joints and muscles but also other internal organs and soft tissues ... it is like a snowball... from thrush and fungal infections to oesophagus reflux from carbuncles to IBS and other more subtle and also dangerous infections that can lead to sepsi in few hours. You should never underestimate these symptoms: if they persist, get checked as soon as possible to understand if you do not have any autoimmune disease. Of course, if you are positive for instance to Lupus (I wish you not), you may ask yourself if you had the condition before or if this was caused by the covid-19 vaccine. At present, medical science cannot give you an answer to this question.

[Cyclemonkey]

You came here stating your symptoms, people have given their views but ultimately you need to speak to a medical professional. No need to get aggressive.

[zenoria65]

Cyclemonkey Wrote:

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> You came here stating your symptoms, people have

> given their views but ultimately you need to speak

> to a medical professional. No need to get

> aggressive.

People are esssentially saying I?m lying. I don?t trust medics, NHS or private, infusing members of my family

[Penguin68]

For information, whilst clearly there will be outliers where the effects are much more severe, here is the current NHS Guidance on AZ vaccine side effects, including a list of ingredients should you have an allergy to any.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/regulatory-approval-of-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca/information-for-uk-recipients-on-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca

[And nobody is accusing anyone of 'lying' about what they themselves are going through, although the mechanisms which underlie the problems may be a matter of interpretation.]

The problems you may suffer from catching Covid-19 can be very much greater than the problems associated with vaccine side effects.

[zenoria65]

Penguin68 Wrote:

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> For information, whilst clearly there will be

> outliers where the effects are much more severe,

> here is the current NHS Guidance on AZ vaccine

> side effects, including a list of ingredients

> should you have an allergy to any.

>

> https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/regulat

> ory-approval-of-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca/infor

> mation-for-uk-recipients-on-covid-19-vaccine-astra

> zeneca

>

>

>

> The problems you may suffer from catching Covid-19

> can be very much greater than the problems

> associated with vaccine side effects.

I MAY suffer (unlikely, I know nobody who has been hospitalised but I know TWELVE people who have committed suicide because they have lost their businesses) as opposed to what I AM suffering.....

Have you looked at the Yellow Card stats? The ONS stats? They don't fit the narrative and the corrupt MSM (BBC being the worst offender) just gloss over anything that contradicts what is relentlessly pumped out..... Vaccine passports? Not on your nelly....

[DadOf4]

AZ

Had it 09:00

armache all day and feeling "a little slow"

woke up 04:00 with high temp / fever , which went on for about 6 hour

12 hours "feeling hungover" after that

Worse than many here, but nothing compared to the potential of getting covid

[Guest]

Zenoria65, I believe you and respect you and what you say.

You just concentrate on your own situation, your symptoms and your needs.

Everybody is different. Priority for people with autoimmune diseases, long covid and severe adverse reactions to the jab is to find asap a GP and possibly other specialists you can have a good relationship with because we all need to rely on our own judgment not less than on professionals' advice.

You need to find people in primary care aware that people circumstances may require very different approach from "one size fits all" Covid vaccine message.

Do not bother to argue and discuss Gov communications, if I may give a suggestion, as they will only upset you and let you feel forgotten and abandoned to your own destiny.

[fishbiscuits]

spoiledtalent Wrote:

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> Zenoria65, I believe you and respect you and what

> you say.

Let's see. Doesn't trust medics. Or the "corrupt MSM". Doubts the severity of Covid and suggests that suicide is a bigger problem.

Sorry I don't believe or respect what Zenoria65 is saying. There is very obviously an angle here.

[prit]

Zenoria, this sounds like shingles, there is anecdotal evidence of people coming down with this after vaccination, one of my relatives did.

[ianr]

I wondered about that too, though I'm no expert. The Yellow Card full analysis prints at https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions, for both Pfzer and AstraZeneca, do show several hundred reports each of Herpes infections -- mostly shingles and oral herpes --and a score or so of Candida; though I've no idea of the incidences pre-Covid. Whatever, with enduring upsetting symptoms like those, I think I'd be looking for some kind of assessment, and if relevant an opinion as to the likely outcomes of not having any treatment.

[zenoria65]

fishbiscuits Wrote:

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> spoiledtalent Wrote:

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> > Zenoria65, I believe you and respect you and

> what

> > you say.

>

> Let's see. Doesn't trust medics. Or the "corrupt

> MSM". Doubts the severity of Covid and suggests

> that suicide is a bigger problem.

>

> Sorry I don't believe or respect what Zenoria65 is

> saying. There is very obviously an angle here.

I do not have an "angle" and you're clearly not sorry. If you'd like to PM I'll tell you why I have neither respect nor trust for medics or MSM. I have family members (not blood relatives as I don't have any) who work in both medic and MSM. You seem nice....