GinaG3 Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Pre-school are supportive and advised me today that my daughter is able to do an extra term there if needs be but there will be no place for her past the January term. I didn't know this, so feel a little more relief now but still really frustrated at the situation. Calling Southwark now - eek! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31320-southwark-primary-school-admissions-for-sept-2013/page/9/#findComment-640540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinaG3 Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Well now I don't know if I'm more confused or not!Admissions say I can reject the place, my daughter will remain on waiting lists for all preferences. When questioned about the obligation to find another place after rejecting a offer the lady said she will definitely remain on school lists that were originally on the 6 preferences. She has passed me to homeschooling to chat to them about everything to see if it helps me clear my mind and rest a little. I need to let southwark know by email if I'm rejecting my place by Thursday. I explained to her I don't want to homeschool long term just as a short term arrangement until a place is found within a better distance to our home, or on a direct bus route. She completely understood and was sympathetic with the situation.Getting 8 buses a day - to school for drop off, back again then to school for pick up and back again is ridiculous. In the winter if it snowed (but school was open) I'd barely be able to get my child in to school. Let alone the cost to me, and the travel times to and from school. So now what would happen if I never got a place from my positions on the waiting lists and was homeschooling on the basis that it was short term? Will southwark just leave me high and dry and tell me to get on with it? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31320-southwark-primary-school-admissions-for-sept-2013/page/9/#findComment-640554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Barber Posted April 30, 2013 Author Share Posted April 30, 2013 Hi GinaG3,Your short term home schooling idea does carry the risk that you might not find a suitable school place in the timescales you need or want. If I were you I'd ask the schools you're most interested if places typically come up much later than this September from people moving etc. And thewn base your decision on the probabilities.Not an easy decision. US friend who home school rate the experience for kids and parent highly but it is very demanding.I hope this helps. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31320-southwark-primary-school-admissions-for-sept-2013/page/9/#findComment-640594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinaG3 Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 My mother homeschools my brother and I've been out of mainstream education since I was 14. It is something I wouldn't like to do for the whole of primary years, but is something will mean I have family members a phone call away that can advise me easily on the 'ways'. This is a really tough decision. I am completely, 110% against the school I have been selected and have found the process completely unfair and illogical. I should be on 7 waiting lists now, but know I'm hoovering around 40-70 on all southwark lists, still waiting on Lewisham wait list release on Thursday. Heres to hope, and luck! Can I just ring the school reception directly to ask about probabilities? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31320-southwark-primary-school-admissions-for-sept-2013/page/9/#findComment-640600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Barber Posted April 30, 2013 Author Share Posted April 30, 2013 Southwakr Admissions have updated me on the numbers who didnt get one of the preferences - instead of 138 it's actually 145:Brunswick Park 3Camberwell Green 4Cathedrals 1Chaucer 3College 31East Dulwich 7East Walworth 1Faraday 2Grange 7Livesey 8Newington 6Nunhead 7Oval 2Peckham 6Peckham Rye 27Riverside 6Rotherhithe 4South Bermondsey 5South Camberwell 2Surrey Docks 1The Lane 5Village 7Total 145For our East Dulwich area 72/145. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31320-southwark-primary-school-admissions-for-sept-2013/page/9/#findComment-640630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamath Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Gina, you can call the Horniman . I called and they were lovely and very helpful. Sadly I am miles down the list and found out today that I have moved down the list at Goodrich so even further away ! It is a total nightmare ! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31320-southwark-primary-school-admissions-for-sept-2013/page/9/#findComment-640635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisforMama Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Gina, you probably researched all your transport options but journey planner site doesn't seem to show a lane that goes from Dulwich Woodhouse pub to Sydenham hill station. You can take bus 363 to Wellspark road, then walk down the lane, to the left along the path near the church and Langbourne is just inside the estate. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31320-southwark-primary-school-admissions-for-sept-2013/page/9/#findComment-640765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ticket2ride Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Harris Academy Peckham Park - places available.Harris Free School Peckham - places available.This says to me that these schools are unpopular in their local area.If the plebs of Peckham dont want their kids at an 'Arris primary school, it's a pretty safe bet that the "mummy groups" of East Dulwich wouldn't be rushing to enrol the darling sons & daughters at one.Perhaps it would make more sense to look at over-subscribed schools and find out why these are popular.Heber, Goodrich, Fairlwan, Horniman, Ivydale seem to be the names coming up. I havent heard anyone say, "I want my child to go to a Harris school." Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31320-southwark-primary-school-admissions-for-sept-2013/page/9/#findComment-640785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renata Hamvas Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 The updated numbers of people who didn't get one of their choices would now include late applicants. Ticket2ride,the oversubscribed schools you mention are all LA Community schools. Renata Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31320-southwark-primary-school-admissions-for-sept-2013/page/9/#findComment-640787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuschia Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 The involvement of academy chains in prinary education is rather unproven.http://m.guardian.co.uk/education/2013/mar/25/education-harris-academies-curriculum'The only two Harris primaries to have had inspection verdicts published as of last week were Harris primary academy Peckham Park, in south London, and Harris primary academy Chafford Hundred, in Essex. Both have received "requires improvement" judgments from inspectors.The Peckham Park school is the only one of Harris's five primaries to have been open last academic year and therefore to have Sats data to report. Yet its results fell sharply compared with the year before Harris took over, from 90% of pupils achieving level four in both English and maths to 65% after a year under Harris.' Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31320-southwark-primary-school-admissions-for-sept-2013/page/9/#findComment-640792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Barber Posted May 1, 2013 Author Share Posted May 1, 2013 Hi Renata,No, the number has been revised because of an error. They had 11 people not allocated to a ward. In resolving that the numbers changed.Hi Fuschia,Yes, those Ofsted verdicts arent inspiring. The "requires improvement" grade replaces the Satisfactory grade. But their Director of Primary Schools is Sir Robin Bosher who led the Fairlawn success but more importantly led the London Challenge programme for school improvement http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-18459553 - that's what he got the Sir for. So they should be great once they've established themselves. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31320-southwark-primary-school-admissions-for-sept-2013/page/9/#findComment-640835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuschia Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 I wouldn't choose for my child to be part of a politically motivated experiment of the scale currently underway in education. More places are urgently needed in a number of areas, and local councils can no longer open new schools - it's left to the likes of Harris and the various free school groups. None of it inspires confidence. Even the academies commission is incredibly cautious.I am so unhappy with the whole Harris edifice, and likely to get place only at Harris boys, we are moving ou if the area this summer, hopefully.It shouldn't be necessary. Every child should gave access to a nearby prinary and secondary place, planned in a coordinated fashion Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31320-southwark-primary-school-admissions-for-sept-2013/page/9/#findComment-640851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BellendenBear Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 I agree with Fuschia. We are 'Peckham plebs' and the open evening that we went to for the Harris Free school was one of the most uninspiring and depressing evenings I've had in a long time. I suspect that many of the supporters on James' previous threads for a Harris school in ED are actually saying that they support a Harris Free school so that other people's kids go there to free up more places at the popular community schools rather than that they actually want their own kids to be part of this experiment which 'should be great once they've established themselves'. That's just not good enough.I also didn't like the fact that in the Harris propaganda for their new free school they implied that because the school was starting from scratch there would be a higher ratio of staff to pupils. When I questioned them about this they acknowledged that this wasn't really the case. They would employ new teachers as the school grew and the school wouldn't get its own head teacher until it reached critical mass. So in face the pupils would have the same number of teachers as any other school but no head so if anything less and not more. This is very dishonest.James, you continue to manipulate figures for political point scoring rather than to provide any helpful information. The number that you give for the children in the ED area who didn't receive any of their choices presumably includes parts of Peckham, Camberwell and Nunhead, when in another post you suggest that Peckham is a long way from ED. And then when you talk about the plans for new schools and school expansions you only mention the ones in ED itself and not the wider area. I find this very misleading. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31320-southwark-primary-school-admissions-for-sept-2013/page/9/#findComment-640859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonMix Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 . Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31320-southwark-primary-school-admissions-for-sept-2013/page/9/#findComment-640965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonMix Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Does anyone have the furthest distance information for Dulwich Hamlet which was missing off of James' list? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31320-southwark-primary-school-admissions-for-sept-2013/page/9/#findComment-641042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
huit Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 LondonMix,Dulwich Hamlet told me the furthest distance for Sept 2013 first round offers was 799m. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31320-southwark-primary-school-admissions-for-sept-2013/page/9/#findComment-641072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonMix Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Thanks! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31320-southwark-primary-school-admissions-for-sept-2013/page/9/#findComment-641089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinaG3 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Has anyone called Lewisham today to find out where they are on waiting lists? Also, has anyone offered Langbourne rejected their offer?Edited: I was informed Lewisham wait lists were due to be released today, now they are saying not until after the bank holiday. This is all so frustrating. Emailing southwark to keep the advice I was given yesterday is correct, and update on my wait positions. Should I be appealing to every school in my preference? Appeals deadline is 17 May? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31320-southwark-primary-school-admissions-for-sept-2013/page/9/#findComment-641233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Barber Posted May 2, 2013 Author Share Posted May 2, 2013 Hi GinaG3,You need a reason to appeal. So if you think a wrong address or status for your child - special requirements of somekind - then do appeal. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31320-southwark-primary-school-admissions-for-sept-2013/page/9/#findComment-641250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinaG3 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Just found out we are 14th on Bessemers list. How likely is that? Hmm, will have to think about appeal. I do have valid reasons, I feel. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31320-southwark-primary-school-admissions-for-sept-2013/page/9/#findComment-641258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
number 2 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 gina i would say that 14th sounds hopeful in a school with a big intake like that. fingers crossed. hmmm, we've gone down the ivydale waiting list :( soooooo not happy. i bloody well hope whoever has overtaken us has a good reason other than just forgetting to apply!! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31320-southwark-primary-school-admissions-for-sept-2013/page/9/#findComment-641259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonMix Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Agree- the intake at Bessemer is larger than average so 14 doesn't sound too bad. Perhpas speak to the school and see what they think? Good luck, I hope it all works out for you! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31320-southwark-primary-school-admissions-for-sept-2013/page/9/#findComment-641262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuschia Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Remember that many children are on 2-6 waiting lists. So the pressure on the lists is less than it might seem. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31320-southwark-primary-school-admissions-for-sept-2013/page/9/#findComment-641356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
number 2 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Just wondering, has anyone come to the top of a waiting list yet?? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31320-southwark-primary-school-admissions-for-sept-2013/page/9/#findComment-641468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB100 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 James Barber Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------their Director of Primary> Schools is Sir Robin Bosher who led the Fairlawn> success but more importantly led the London> Challenge programme for school improvement> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-18459553 -> that's what he got the Sir for. So they should be> great once they've established themselves...and very good at creaming off the best Lewisham teachers for Harris primaries....I would bite my right arm off for a place in one of his 'undersubscribed' classes for Sept with the teachers he's put there. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31320-southwark-primary-school-admissions-for-sept-2013/page/9/#findComment-641628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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