IPHONE / IPAD Users are fashion victims.

[red devil]

Annette Curtain Wrote:

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> On a serious note: TED you are a frikkin moron,

> with either hammer i'd happily nail your door

> shut, keeping you out of reach of any comms

> devices.

> http://s7g3.scene7.com/is/image/ae235?$p$&layer=0&

> size=281,281&layer=1&size=281,281&src=ae235/41235_

> P

Netty, trust me, you'd feel so much better doing it with a sexy looking, over priced, state-of-the-art 'nail gun'...

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110921022903/fallout/images/thumb/1/15/Shoulder_mounted_machine_gun.png/240px-Shoulder_mounted_machine_gun.png

[david_carnell]

That is a sexy hammer.

[El Pibe]

isn't that from Quake?

[Annette Curtain]

the-e-dealer Wrote:

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> Are you still banned from the sane bits of the

> Forum?

Yeaah - Ha ha ha ha ha hahhhhhaaaaa

AND I'm locked in the same room as you

*helplessly claws at the glass*

[the-e-dealer]

nah I'm free to post anywhere. hahahaha

[Annette Curtain]

david_carnell Wrote:

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> That is a sexy hammer.

Indeed it is David

If you sharpen the shank with a grinder, it can slice through all sorts.

[david_carnell]

Like TED?

[maxxi]

the-e-dealer Wrote:

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> Yeah and I run 5TB Databases (not sure what your

> job has to do with it ) each one on 40 spindles

Yarrr never mind hammers - spindles is sexy as-

http://www.chanterbiomed.co.uk/boiler_spares/images/Spindles.gif

[numbers]

Jeremy Wrote:

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> Bobster - no, not suggesting anyone should do

> anything. Just saying that the average person who

> buys a mac does so because they're happy to pay a

> premium for something they think looks cool. This

> is hardly a crime, of course. It's just seems

> rather daft.

Not everyone buys them because they think they look cool.

Some of us are just stupid don'tknowanybetters or rather, not very tech-savvy and quite like having a machine that tells us exactly what to do and when eg "click on this button now, yes THIS one, to update virus software" as opposed to a "go to settings, install this, uninstall that, run this" assuming you know what you're doing then when it realises you don't, "RTFM you moron" scenario.

I'm sure if I knew anything about computers, I may well dislike using a mac or spending more money on one to do same things I can do for less.

[right-clicking]

Bah and Humbug!! Buy an Apple product and you are buying into a closed eco-system. Compatibility with any non-apple products, hardware or software will prove to be a major headache (install itunes on a PC and see the mess).

Sure they look good and are of great quality, robust and reliable. But cost a fortune!

Apple have built in restraints to prevent home upgrades, the internals are nothing special and again restricted at OS/X level, force you into upgrading early on in the machines life, To gain any rewards from using any of their products hassle free you end up buying them all! Disgusting company IMHO who in their right mind likes spending a monkey to buy a dog?

[*Bob*]

right-clicking Wrote:

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> Sure they look good and are of great quality,

> robust and reliable. But cost a fortune!

?287/year.

[El Pibe]

ITunes works fine on my PC.

[Otta]

I think the point is that it takes all your MP3s and converts them to the itunes format, thus taking up a load more disk space with duplicate media. They could have just played MP3s and shared.

I hate itunes. Deleted it a couple of years ago, but have now reinstalled for use with ipod, but that is the only reason I use it. Just find it somehow non user friendly.

[woodrot]

Itunes is like the puffer fish of the 'puter world- its seems to sorta expand, spending its entire life updating itself and hogging whatever mmemory you have to spare. I hate Itunz with a passion for this reason alone.

fair enough if you actually use Macs n ting for a specific purpose, where it probabaly excels - I can cope with that, but given that 95% of the population use a puter to surf the net and visit a maximum of 10 sites in an average month, of which only about 3 or 4 are actually regular visits, its a bit wanky to buy a mac for this.Its like buying a rolex seadweller to go for a bit of rafts and rascals action in dulwich pool on sundays.

[El Pibe]

I actually get on quite well with itunes these days, though it has taken a while to get it's act together, at least as far as PCs are concerned.

It doesn't convert anything, indeed it has mp3 codecs if that's what you want to rip to.

It no worse a performer than some of the alternatives, half of which seem to be clones, and significantly better than say Sony's offering.

Mind you they're all becoming marketing portals and I really just want organisation software so may take the leap to Media Monkey or suchlike eventually. WHatever is compatible with ALAC (doh!!) and [probably] Sonos in the new house.

[malumbu]

I did silly amounts of research at Xmas and found problems with every bally tablet - particularly as they want to snare you into their traps. I consider Apple as virtually a closed market, both in terms of competition and the controls on the retail price. Post above echoes some of this. Selling at a higher cost (and Kindle as well) to the Eurpean market smacks of hypocracy from the land of free trade (Harley Davison are only in business due to the money the State pumped into them and punative taxation on large imported motorbikes back in the day). Something good to be said about the EU in a level playing field.

Some of the more informative reviews on Amazon were helpful. I ended up buying the family an Ipad and managed to squeeze a few quid out of the Apple store in convincing them that I could get a discount (bally hard work). Mind you the ipod thingy does all the stuff the iphone seems to do apart from calls and texts at a third of the cost.

People cross the road when they see my three year old non smart mobile phone to avoid the embarassment.