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Louisa

Louisa

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titch juicy Wrote:

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>

> surely waitrose are stamping all over the

> traditional local working class greengrocers and

> corner newsagents?


Surely all supermarkets are stamping over all independent business to some extent? That's just a fact of life, that's how the market works. That's not class related.


Louisa.

Louisa

Louisa

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Yes it is pretentious if its used in a demeaning context to attack another type of food.


A roll and ciabatta are both bread.


A frittata quiche and omelette are all egg based flans.


They all use the same basic ingredients and if you go out of your way to force feed someone your knowledge of a name then it's pretentious.


Louisa.

titch juicy

titch juicy

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Louisa Wrote:

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> Yes it is pretentious if its used in a demeaning

> context to attack another type of food.

>

> A roll and ciabatta are both bread.

>

> A frittata quiche and omelette are all egg based

> flans.

>

> They all use the same basic ingredients and if you

> go out of your way to force feed someone your

> knowledge of a name then it's pretentious.

>

> Louisa.



haha!

RosieH

RosieH

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Louisa Wrote:

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> Who goes home from work and says "ooh lets knock

> up a frittata for tea" - no one that's who!

> Louisa.


Er, actually, me. Although I usually do it for lunch. You don't put chunks in an omelette. They're different recipes. Scrambled eggs and an omelette would be closer bedfellows, but I don't see you getting upset about that.


A pizza isn't the same as cheese on toast, in the same way that lasagne and moussaka aren't just pretentious cottage / shepherd's pies. They're similar, but markedly different.


If you'd prefer though, we can just refer to things in the generic: meat, eggs, vegetable matter...


I like meat things.

AlexC

AlexC

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Louisa Wrote:

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> Maybe that tomato pur?e paste is the answer to

> coolness right? After all, it turns cheese on

> toast into a pizza.

>

> Louisa.


Go on then Louisa, open a pizza restaurant that serves cheese on toast with a tomato puree base and I think you'll be getting complaints no matter what the class of the customer is.

El Pibe

El Pibe

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"[people] do not want to talk about how food and class have merged into one"


Not really, people have rightly dismissed the theory and want to move on.


Food and class were as one when commoners were hung for snaring game.

Food and class were as one when people starved to death as their smallholdings got blight whilst surrounded by fields laden with wheat for export.


An increase in vendors of fresh food of provenance as opposed to frozen food of indeterminate origin isn't evidence of a paradigm shift in the suppression of the working classes, it's just, well, nice food.


I'm just as inclined to get annoyed by 'old spot gammon and triple cooked frites' over 'ham and chips' but gammon really does come in varying quality, and I'm happy to pay ?6.50 rather than ?3 if it a)tastes nice and b)isn't packed full of phenylbutazone.


What you're decrying is not the end of a certain class, for there are plenty of people of working class origin, hell might even still describe themselves as such, who are well able to tell the differnece between a turd, a polished turd and a pulled pork burrito.


I think you've just got sympathy and empathy for the poor folk left behind who can't afford anything but the turd, but your frustration is manifesting itself entirely obliquely to the real issue. You're blaming the sneeze, not the cold.

titch juicy

titch juicy

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"What you're decrying is not the end of a certain class, for there are plenty of people of working class origin, hell might even still describe themselves as such, who are well able to tell the differnece between a turd, a polished turd and a pulled pork burrito.


I think you've just got sympathy and empathy for the poor folk left behind who can't afford anything but the turd, but your frustration is manifesting itself entirely obliquely to the real issue. You're blaming the sneeze, not the cold."




I think that might be the knock out blow

Louisa

Louisa

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AlexC Wrote:

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> Louisa Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Maybe that tomato pur?e paste is the answer to

> > coolness right? After all, it turns cheese on

> > toast into a pizza.

> >

> > Louisa.

>

> Go on then Louisa, open a pizza restaurant that

> serves cheese on toast with a tomato puree base

> and I think you'll be getting complaints no matter

> what the class of the customer is.


I reckon if I got some posh bread and stuck some sort of welsh goats cheese and tomato and basil sauce and gave it a fancy name and served it up as Welsh rarebit I'd have the trendies flocking for 8 quid a punt.


Louisa.

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