Macdonald's on Lordship Lane? (Lounged)

[snorky]

Go to nando at the Elefanta and castle. You slide into your seat actross the grease coated floor.

not nice

[Brendan]

Is it really that bad? I tend to go to the London Bridge and Victoria ones (and the ones in SA when I?m there) and they never seem overly greasy.

[Louisa]

Nandois is probably the most annoying of the "i'm not an evil fast food chain cos I setup in trendy areas" type eateries in the country. The food is awful at every one I have ever been to, and the service is terrible. I'd rather eat KFC (yuck) because at least you can see what they are at face value. ED does not need one of these places thanks very much ta!

Louisa.

[Brendan]

Trendy areas like Brixton, Camberwell, Catford, Lewisham, Streatham, Tooting, Stratford etc.

[*Bob*]

.. Colliers Wood, Elephant & Castle, Dalston.

.. Romford.

All the classy places.

[Jah Lush]

If Macdonalds ever moved onto the Lane I would be personally fire bomb the fecker. Never tried Nandos but they don't exactly inspire me with a desire enter any of their portals and there is even one here where I work in Canary Wharf, again not a trendy place just a fecking souless shopping centre with surrounding offices swarming with androids in suits. Got a nice tube station and a Waitrose though.

[kford]

Louisa is correct. Nando's is nothing but intensively-farmed filth basted with spices to mask the lack of taste, with accompanying mass-produced-in-a-shed-in-Telford fries. At least GBK, for all its homogenised faults, is a step up from BK & McD's

Ditto Subway with its 'value' ?5 baguettes.

And Greggs - if you think that's pork in your two-for-?1.05 sausage rolls, think again.

[Brendan]

Do you think the meat in your GBK comes from a different type of cow to the one in McDs?

[*Bob*]

I'm astonished at your revelations, kford.

Next you'll be telling me that Shoefayre doesn't target the designer end of the footwear market either?!

[SeanMacGabhann]

I think you'll find thats cows - plural - Brendan - certainly in McD's case.

Fast Food Nation

Ok it's a wiki link but my attitude to food and food chains changed when I read the original book. I'd be disturbed if anyone read it, believed it and carried on eating there regardless

[blinder999]

I like a McD's once in a while. The quality of the food there is pretty high, for its price bracket. You're a lot safer eating a burger there than in many non-chain places which do not have to be so scrupulous about where they get their meat from, or so observant of their sell-by dates etc. They didn't get to be that big by selling poor quality stuff.

The Eric Schlosser stuff is entertaining, but should be taken with a pinch of salt. Have some McDonald's propaganda:

http://www.mcdonalds.com/content/corp/values/report/archive/progress_report/grandin_interview.html

We got some burgers from a certain venerated local butcher once, and they were salty, greasy, old-school burger van-style, so horrible we chucked them out rather than eat them.

[kford]

But, *Bob*, Shoefare's shoes aren't made from lips and arseholes.

At least two poople I know have been ill enough to have a day off work from eating pasties or sausage rolls from separate Greggs. Vile.

[HonaloochieB]

A Wimpy would be a good compromise.

[SimonM]

I did wonder about a "Pret a Manger"....very LL if you ask me..B)

[SeanMacGabhann]

funnily enough blinder I look at those burgers in several rated butchers and wonder why they are even there. They don't look like they are made in-house with the same mince sold over the counter. And why wouldn't you just buy decent mince and make the burger anyway - time wise it adds about 10 mins to anyones day?

As for any company becoming huge by not selling bad quality? Surely you don't even have to think for 5 seconds to come up with several examples of that not being true. As for the Schlosser book I would like it to be an entertaining romp but found it profoundly depressing but if you dispute the facts any chance you could come up with some supporting arguments (independant sources preferred to mcD's please - they have a history of .... aggressive measures countering their opponents)

[*Bob*]

I can't believe how wrong I've been about Greggs!

I shall never, ever buy another scotch egg from there as long as I live.

Thanks, kford. I owe you one.

[Cassius]

The more I read this thread the more I am glad I don't eat meat!

[Brendan]

From now on I will only eat squirrel and wood pigeon from the back garden.

[Brendan]

And maybe seahorses from the Thames.

[SeanMacGabhann]

Anyone with any kind of connection to farming knows that killing animals for meat doesn't have to be the vile practice it has become in so many places - no reason to become veggie if you shop around

[Brendan]

It is never exactly pleasant though Sean. Problem is that for large scale farming to be financially viable slaughtering has to be done on an industrial scale too.

It would be handy if there was more awareness of the standards in the industry and which companies maintained the better levels.

[blinder999]

SeanMacGabhann Wrote:

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> funnily enough blinder I look at those burgers in

> several rated butchers and wonder why they are

> even there. They don't look like they are made

> in-house with the same mince sold over the

> counter. And why wouldn't you just buy decent

> mince and make the burger anyway - time wise it

> adds about 10 mins to anyones day?

I don't slaughter the cow, I don't chop the meat, I don't mince the meat, so I don't feel guilty about not wanting to make the burgers - I have two kids, any spare minutes I have will not be spent mushing minced beef into burgers any time soon. The ones in Sainsbury's taste great by the way.

> As for any company becoming huge by not selling

> bad quality? Surely you don't even have to think

> for 5 seconds to come up with several examples of

> that not being true.

I must confess - I worked in McDs part-time all through my education, in various outlets, so I know a fair bit about it, and the quality of the ingredients is good compared to the competition.

As for the Schlosser book I

> would like it to be an entertaining romp but found

> it profoundly depressing but if you dispute the

> facts any chance you could come up with some

> supporting arguments (independant sources

> preferred to mcD's please - they have a history of

> .... aggressive measures countering their

> opponents)

I'm not interested in being a cheerleader for McDonald's - I really don't care that much - but personally, I do believe the propaganda on their site - ie, I believe they have contributed to an increase in standards across the industry.

[woodie]

dont get me going. it could get ugly!

[kford]

There's not enough passing trade for a Pret, or even a Subway. They're both owned in part by McD's, by the way, too.

Leon is pretty good, but again, not enough trade. It would have to be a Nando's, with its everyman demographic, in store for us.

[SeanMacGabhann]

McD's have offloaded their stake in Pret I believe