what's happening on rye lane?

[GrumpyGranny]

What's happening on rye lane? it looks bad.

[Louisa]

More information?

Louisa.

[suzplum]

According to twitter, some man wielding a baseball bat was bought day by police and the public on Rye Lane...

http://instagram.com/p/bBl-jvNcwI/#

[araucaria]

Tweeps also report it started with a man smashing up KFC after jumping the counter and taking chicken. When the "feds" arrived the baseball bat was turned against one of the cars.

Never a dull momement, huh.

[DJKillaQueen]

'feds' lol...is that supposed to sound 'of the area'? Like Peckham is dominated by teenage slang bearing hoodies?

Sounds to me like an individual (amongst a whole street full of shoppers) decided to act a bit crazy. Dealt with quickly by Police and some members of the public. Nothing to see, no riot, and move along now.....!

[edcam]

"Feds"? Oh please....

[JohnL]

why did it take so many Police to take one man

In my day ...

[Nigello]

JohnL - Agreed. Although I didn't witness this event I've had plenty of times to wonder - sometimes aloud - just why the coppers come mob-handed to the most trivial event. And don't get me started on why PCSOs can never be seen alone - always in twos and sometimes in threes.

[MrBen]

Well. If it was me I wouldn't be rocking up in Peckham central to break up a fight with weapons without some kind of back up. Would you?

Police have a tough balancing act between sensitivity and certain background tensions shall we say - it's not easy. The instagram pic above speaks a million words in that respect.

[red devil]

What MrB said.

Damned if they do, damned if they don't...

[UncleBen]

Police are sh*t scared in peckham. Plain and simple and uncomfortable fact. Amazing you saw that DJKQ, you may have missed it if the chap with a bat had been carrying a fox :-D

[malumbu]

Cyled through Peckham for ten years.

Incidents = someone through a ball at me once

The obvious looting/riots of 2011

Two guys wanting to have a fight, and shop keepers breaking it up (very positive multi-ethnic stuff)

Shoplifters being stopped by the middle aged guard at a luggage shop and threatening to smash the place up with a breeze block. It was at a time when the pedestrianised area was being dug up so the whole place was crowded with shoppers.

Generally nowt much happening.

[MrBen]

And your point is?

[DJKillaQueen]

I have no idea what you are talking about Uncleben lol.

BUT as someone who regularly liases with the local Police on local crime and community issues I can assure you they are not sh*t scared of anyone. What they do have though is a protocol for various situations, developed through experience, and designed to minimise danger to themselves and the public.

And whilst Peckham/ The Lane ward might register higher than average on the crime scale, the level of incidents in Rye Lane itself, are not remarkable for a busy shopping area.

[JohnL]

agree - no incidents in 7 years living here

a few characters :)

DJKillaQueen Wrote:

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> I have no idea what you are talking about Uncleben

> lol.

>

> BUT as someone who regularly liases with the local

> Police on local crime and community issues I can

> assure you they are not sh*t scared of anyone.

> What they do have though is a protocol for various

> situations, developed through experience, and

> designed to minimise danger to themselves and the

> public.

>

> And whilst Peckham/ The Lane ward might register

> higher than average on the crime scale, the level

> of incidents in Rye Lane itself, are not

> remarkable for a busy shopping area.

[Peckhamrye]

Agreed - never feel unsafe walking down Rye Lane - just go with the flow people. If you don't like it don't go there but stop decrying it.

[uncleglen]

Nigello wrote

'Although I didn't witness this event I've had plenty of times to wonder - sometimes aloud - just why the coppers come mob-handed to the most trivial event....'

My daughter was mugged in ED and was near home so she got to the phone and rang 999 and gave a brilliant description and the perps were picked up. She was driven to id them and in within 15 minutes the whole street was full of the muggers pals and their girlfriends sitting on cars and behaving in a deliberately intimidating way to the extent that a couple of them were put in a van-that's why they turn up in numbers.

[UncleBen]

Rye lane has the highest rate of crime anywhere locally, especially at school chucking out time. I suspect that on PC grounds that stats are minipulated, and misinformation created

[DJKillaQueen]

That's a ridiculous statement to make without hard evidence UncleBen. FYI local crimes stats are not delivered by local forces. All reported crimes whether they lead to an arrest or not go into the central office for national statistics, accessible by any member of the public.

But as others have said above, most of us rarely see anything to worry about in our daily wanderings up and down Rye Lane.

[UncleBen]

Feel free to believe what you like, DJKQ. It's a fact though. Also ask anyone that actually lives in that area, aged between 14-21 and see what they tell you. Or just maybe, that area with not only several gangs in it, but the biggest gang in sth london, are gangs that don't commit crime. Hmm.

[DJKillaQueen]

Then if it is a fact...prove it with evidence. And I know plenty of young people that live in that area. There are criminal gangs everywhere, in every major city in the world - and some of them blue collar as well. So why single out Rye Lane? (when actually what you mean is North Peckham).

Still that doesn't answer your claim that the Police downplay the crime figures for Rye Lane. In fact, go to your next Police Ward Panel meeting and present that accusation to them and see how far you get.

When a crime is reported, the Police have to complete paperwork which is then logged onto the national database (by civilian employees btw). That infomation is then accessed and analysed by the Office for National Statistics, which in turn is accessed by government and the Police to define levels of funding and how best to target resources to fight crime. There would be absolutely nothing to gain from altering those figures (if they could be altered). And those figures are published regularly for all to see.

If you are a Police force operating in an area of higher crime, then you need to get as big a slice of funding as possible to police that. It would make no sense for Peckham Police to downplay figures. Think about it.

[UncleBen]

As I said DJKQ, they sell it, you buy it. Also I'm not talking about gangland, I'm talking about street gangs.

[DJKillaQueen]

You are talking nonsense about the treatment of crime figures. And have provided no evidence whatsoever to prove your nonsense.

And tell me, what is the difference between a criminal in a street based gang and any other kind of criminal? I wouldn't like to think you are expressing class based (or worse still ethnic) prejudice here would I?

[UncleBen]

What is your evidence?

[Fabricio the Guido]

Nice one uncleBen, unsupported assertions and then when asked to provide some simple facts, you turn on the charm and aks her for evidence. Can we safely assume you were talking out of your nether regions ?