Cycling on the pavement

[a fish]

I was going to post a map showing where the Cyclists Behaving Like Dicks blackspot I work in is, and hey, look what I found:- http://goo.gl/maps/LCgou

[henryb]

OMG - call the cops!

[a fish]

henryb Wrote:

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> OMG - call the cops!

The Cycling Embassy website (it's a very good site, by the way) says that 'Cycling on pavements is a response to badly designed streets and hostile road conditions. Where roads are quiet and safe, or where high-quality cycling facilities have been provided, pavement cycling ceases'. So what's this guy's excuse? Oh hang on, that's right, it's a one way street, and he wants to go the wrong way. Him, and his mate round the corner:- http://goo.gl/maps/wGUdg

[rodneybewes]

You're right - the cops are bound to cover this up. We need an parliamentary enquiry.

[a fish]

rodneybewes Wrote:

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> You're right - the cops are bound to cover this

> up. We need an parliamentary enquiry.

Put 'cycling' in as a search term to Hansard, and you'll see there has already been quite a few...

[rodneybewes]

Into the incident referred to? Or cycling on the pavement generally? I think not. You're pulling my leg I think.

[a fish]

rodneybewes Wrote:

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> Into the incident referred to? Or cycling on the

> pavement generally? I think not. You're pulling my

> leg I think.

Hahahahahahahaaaaaa!

No, but do have a look on Hansard, there are loads of links about cycling laws, and lots of facts and figures about road safety, whether it's bikes, cars or pedestrians.

[rodneybewes]

Indeed there are. Sad to see that the present government aren't seeing this terror for what it is. Take this from the 3rd July this year.

Lord Tebbit: My Lords, how many cyclists actually pay the fixed-penalty tickets which are issued to them for offences such as riding on the pavement to the danger of pedestrians? My noble friend may know that they habitually give false names and addresses; there is no way for the police officer issuing the penalty notice to know that. What are we going to do? Are we going to compel cyclists to have some form of identification so that, if issued with a penalty ticket, they are required to pay it instead of just scoffing at the law?

Earl Attlee: My Lords, it is up to the police to decide how they enforce road traffic law, and they have the necessary tools to do so. I gently say to my noble friend that the police look at where they can deploy their resources to reduce casualties. Although it is extremely annoying for noble Lords to see cyclists riding on the pavement, and although it does cause accidents, it does not cause fatal accidents.

Their "scoffing" will continue unabated with this kind of attitude and where will we be then? Surely there can be no other important matter for police to attend to in the interests of public safety than this?

And of course it is always sad to see the venerable and gentle Lord Tebbit being slapped down in such an undeserving way...

[JohnL]

Not to slap him down but bikes and Norman (Lord) Tebbit have a history.

[henryb]

> Him, and his mate round the

> corner:- http://goo.gl/maps/wGUdg

I think that actually might be the same guy - same suit, same brief case. Probably a lawyer. :o)

[a fish]

henryb Wrote:

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> > Him, and his mate round the

> > corner:- http://goo.gl/maps/wGUdg

>

> I think that actually might be the same guy - same

> suit, same brief case. Probably a lawyer. :o)

He's obviously rich enough to own two different bikes ;-)

Edit: Nup, you're right, it is the same guy...

[henryb]

Yep he probably switches bikes to confound any police investigation. Clearly a wily serial offender.

[LadyDeliah]

This is the real menace on our roads and pavements. Something really needs be done about it.

http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/file.php?5,file=108658

http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/file.php?5,file=108659

[a fish]

LadyDeliah Wrote:

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> This is the real menace on our roads and

> pavements. Something really needs be done about

> it.

>

> http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/file.php?5

> ,file=108658

>

>

> http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/file.php?5

> ,file=108659

Christ yes!

[Voyageur]

LadyDeliah Wrote:

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> This is the real menace on our roads and

> pavements. Something really needs be done about

> it.

>

> http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/file.php?5

> ,file=108658

>

>

> http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/file.php?5

> ,file=108659

Ha! Nice try. When they get as prolific on the pavements as aggressive pavement cyclists I will agree! :)

Mind you, they are a frigging menace in supermarket aisles so you may have a point....

[LadyDeliah]

Here's the smiley face, just incase anyone needed it in my previous post :-)

[dennis]

"So nat'ralists observe, a flea

Hath smaller fleas that on him prey;

And these have smaller fleas to bite 'em.

And so proceeds Ad infinitum."

[a fish]

LadyDeliah Wrote:

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> Take a picture on your phone for us a fish

OK, here you go, knock yourself out with this muppet.

(Pic now deleted, as it wasn't supposed to be a way into my entire photobucket account, just one pic!)

This was taken - by me! - above 8 minutes ago in Grand Avenue, the semi-pedestrianised bit across the middle of Smithfield meat market. I say semi-pedestrianised, because while delivery vans and fork lifts are allowed in, bikes aren't, and the big signs at both ends with crossed out bicycles and the words 'cyclists dismount' should have been a clue to this guy, like they were to the woman clearly wheeling her bike the 50 metres or so from one gate to the other. Seconds later, a guard roared 'Oi! get off your fcuking bike!" to which the cyclist meekly complied.

Now, bear in mind that Grand Avenue is actually peoples' workplace, they are nipping back and forth across the road all day, on foot, with hand trucks and trolleys, and on forklifts. How would you like it if someone shot through your workplace like this, eh?

[LadyDeliah]

Wow, that's a perfect example of a Lycra lout ploughing through pedestrians on the pavement whilst verbally abusing them. Good work DJKQ, sorry, keep forgetting, I mean a fish.

[a fish]

I never promised 'a Lycra lout ploughing through pedestrians on the pavement whilst verbally abusing them', but I have given you a perfect example of someone cycling at speed in a place where they are expressly forbidden. What was wrong with him getting off and pushing the bike, like most cyclists who go through there? What danger is he avoiding by staying on his bike?

And you didn't answer the question, how would you like it if someone shot through your workplace like this?

Oh and, who - or indeed what - is DJKQ?

[mynamehere]

Let's go with it Fish! Lady, Henry jump on ! Let's push that door wide wide open: Cycling on the Pavement Here we come with a vengeance! Take the format: Motorway Cops BBC1. Doesn't get top ratings but it is very watchable. They pull over drivers who aren't quite right and they open a Pandora's Box of grey area wrong doings and often more black than grey. Gritty stuff all starting with the abuse of a multi tonne vehicle. But no I am not digressing from cycling on the pavement. I here propose exactly the same format to any entertainment provider and there are hundreds in East Dulwich and more than a few I'm sure follow these threads: Pavement Cops. Scenario (and Fish you have something to do with film and I bet you've got contacts... Fish this idea is for you gratis from me. I lay no claim to it or the viewers and money and fame that will come from it) scenario: plain clothes coppers hang about with cameras and snap cyclists. You're already doing it see picture you've attached above. The law's clear, certain behaviour is illegal and there is absolutely a mandate to stop certain behaviour (I watched a woman drop a chewed and sucked pear on the bus last night. disgusting. illegal. and from her attire someone who no doubt felt herself morally superior to me and others. take. her. out. in case you think I joke I joke not I hate litterers. But I digress) SNAP them. Stop Them. Frisk them. Just like Motorway Cops. Highly watchable real life drama and no doubt it can be edited like Motorway Cops to often show the real hidden criminal beneath the velcro.

[LadyDeliah]

You said you see Lycra louts ploughing through pedestrians whilst verbally abusing them on a daily basis. I asked you to show us. You showed us a guy cycling in a suit (?) on an empty street past a parked van. Impressive.

[a fish]

LadyDeliah Wrote:

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> You said you see Lycra louts ploughing through

> pedestrians whilst verbally abiding them on a

> daily basis. I asked you to show us. You showed

> us a guy cycling in a suit (?) on an empty street

> past a parked van. Impressive.

Sorry, I seem to have mislaid the post where I said that. Please provide a link.

Also, I showed someone cycling at speed in a place where they are expressly forbidden. What was wrong with him getting off and pushing the bike, like most cyclists who go through there? What danger is he avoiding by staying on his bike?

And more questions you still haven't answered, how would you like it if someone shot through your workplace like this? And who - or indeed what - is DJKQ?

[LadyDeliah]

a fish Wrote:

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> henryb Wrote:

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> -----

> > however in 20 years in London I never

> > seen a "Lycra Lout" bombing down the pavement

> > barging people out the way spitting and

> swearing

> > at pedestrians. If someone would tell me where

> to

> > see one that would be great because I am

> starting

> > to feel I am missing out.

>

> As I've said before, try Farringdon/Clerkenwell.

Doesn't this count then a fish?

[a fish]

Why yes, yes indeed, I had forgotten that reply. I?ll see what I can do tomorrow morning; one of my colleagues has just arrived shaken somewhat by being very nearly hit by a fast moving courier on the pavement outside Abigail?s Cafe by Farringdon station, so it shouldn?t be too difficult. Meanwhile, without wishing to come over all Jeremy Paxman to your Michael Howard, any chance of an answer to some very simple questions?

1) I showed someone cycling at speed in a place where they are expressly forbidden. What was wrong with him getting off and pushing the bike, like most cyclists who go through there? What danger is he avoiding by staying on his bike?

2) How would you like it if someone shot through your workplace like this?

3) And who - or indeed what - is DJKQ