East Dulwich The Dream is Over.

[DulwichFox]

Just been on BBC News Peckham is being Gentrified.. It is the place to be and be seen. Ahem.. Chokes on water.

House prices are Rising. Estate Agents have people on their books who want to move there.

Soon Places like the so called 'Bellenden Village' will be dis-associating themselves from East Dulwich.

The Gowlet will be back in Peckham. NOT East Dulwich.

People living in Parts of E.D. will claim to live in Peckham. Believe me, they will.

Foxy

[KidKruger]

'East' where ?

[Too Good To Be True]

West Peckham or Outer Brixton.

[Too Good To Be True]

Or South Camberwell.

[El Pibe]

The day Pin Green gentrifies, THEN the world will have turnde upside down!!!

[steveo]

I went to see Rush in Peckham last night. There were four others in the audience. I drove up the multi story to see if I could have a gander at Franks but the steel shutters were up.

There were three other cars in the car park.

I thought I'd park on the 5th floor anyway but the lifts were out of order, it stunk of urine, there were some quite impressive piles of shite and a load of cardboard and rags. i.e. a number of people call it home.

It all seemed a long way from the 'G' word.

Good film though, and only a fiver to get in

[JohnL]

I think all you have said was mentioned in one of the recent reviews.

including the lifts - you have to walk :)

Except it was still summer and Franks was open.

Part of 'the experience'

steveo Wrote:

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> I went to see Rush in Peckham last night. There

> were four others in the audience. I drove up the

> multi story to see if I could have a gander at

> Franks but the steel shutters were up.

>

> There were three other cars in the car park.

>

> I thought I'd park on the 5th floor anyway but the

> lifts were out of order, it stunk of urine, there

> were some quite impressive piles of shite and a

> load of cardboard and rags. i.e. a number of

> people call it home.

>

> It all seemed a long way from the 'G' word.

>

> Good film though, and only a fiver to get in

[titch juicy]

franks opens wednesday to sunday

[red devil]

steveo Wrote:

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> I went to see Rush in Peckham last night. There

> were four others in the audience. I drove up the

> multi story to see if I could have a gander at

> Franks but the steel shutters were up.

For a minute there I thought you meant the band*...

*To be read in a high falsetto voice

[titch juicy]

"The Gowlett will be back in Peckham. NOT East

Dulwich."

Suuurely no-one's claimed the gowlett is in east dulwich?

"People living in Parts of E.D. will claim to live

in Peckham. Believe me, they will."

Trust me, that started a couple of years ago

[StraferJack]

"For a minute there I thought you meant the band*... "

That was my first thought too - and given teh fact Glenn Branca and others played the exact same building a few weeks back it wasn't beyond the realms of possibility

[Michael Palaeologus]

Peckham is South Shoreditch. The identical public art to be seen in Shoreditch and South Shoreditch are examples of "Hispstersign". Ensuring that wandering Hispters know that they are amongst their own kind.

[steveo]

That there are those in ED whose thoughts turn immediately to twin necked guitars and falsetto Canadians at the mention of the word 'Rush,' is not entirely surprising.

[red devil]

steveo Wrote:

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> That there are those in ED whose thoughts turn

> immediately to twin necked guitars and falsetto

> Canadians at the mention of the word 'Rush,' is

> not entirely surprising.

I know, schoolboy error. To believe an audience of 4 would watch Rush perform live was me being overly optimistic...

[FJDGoose]

steveo Wrote:

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> That there are those in ED whose thoughts turn

> immediately to twin necked guitars and falsetto

> Canadians at the mention of the word 'Rush,' is

> not entirely surprising.

Indeed - first band I ever saw in 79 , lol

[numbers]

KidKruger Wrote:

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> 'East' where ?

:))

[Girl82]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> The Gowlet will be back in Peckham. NOT East

> Dulwich.

>

> People living in Parts of E.D. will claim to live

> in Peckham. Believe me, they will.

>

> Foxy

Please can people stop saying The Gowlett is in East Dulwich?! The Gowlett is NOT East Dulwich, it is Peckham!!!

[edhistory]

Over the last 30 years or so some new arrivals in our area have re-named some parts of East Dulwich as "Peckham".

More recent arrivals now fall in line and routinely do the same.

Even English Heritage in its area characterisation report has mentioned the southward migration of the Peckham place-name.

John K

[Otta]

John, seriously, please can you show us what you consider to be Peckham and what you consider to be East Dulwich. Oh, and why you care so much?

[edhistory]

I've posted a fair amount of documentary evidence on the EDF over the years.

East Dulwich is:

Friern Manor south of the crest of Dog Kennel Hill.

East Dulwich Parish

And, as a concession, those parts of SE22 not included above.

John K

[Parkdrive]

Why would anyone want to claim they live in Peckham when they don't? I went to Peckham Manor school in the late 60's and early 70's, Peckham was nasty then and it still is. But then East Dulwich was crap then and it ain't much better now.

[Otta]

A parish is simply?a small administrative district. East Dulwich Parish does not exist anymore. If we are going to define areas by parish, then East Dulwich doesn't exist, instead the area is made up of the parish of st Clement's with st Peter's and the parish of St Barnabas Dulwich.

John you are clearly absolutely desperate to live in East Dulwich. Why on earth did you buy a place in Peckham?

[steveo]

I don't have these identity problems because I live in Dulwich, neither East, nor West, not North nor Village.

Dulwich

[edhistory]

http://www.southwark.anglican.org/parishes/dulwich

[londoner_77]

Parkdrive Wrote:

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> Why would anyone want to claim they live in

> Peckham when they don't? I went to Peckham Manor

> school in the late 60's and early 70's, Peckham

> was nasty then and it still is. But then East

> Dulwich was crap then and it ain't much better

> now.

That's quite a negative post! There are some very nice bits of Peckham - and East Dulwich is lovely!