Chris Pretty on the closure of the Prettys Green Grocers on Northcross Road.

[Alan Medic]

Yeah, but we're talking about a greengrocers here. How good or bad can one be?

[jamescpr90]

Many years ago we had two excellent greengrocers in Lordship Lane .

[Sue]

jamescpr90 Wrote:

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> Many years ago we had two excellent greengrocers

> in Lordship Lane.

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Yes, and Sainsbury's opening put them out of business.

As it did a couple of local butchers - including one in North Cross Road, if memory serves.

[Ani]

This is such bad news

I have lived and worked in East Dulwich since 1991.

I think the shop is fantastic and ED is losing a great service.

It's shocking and disgusting how you have been treated Chris.

All the best to you and your family.

[James Barber]

To ensure proper scrutiny on planning application 13/AP/3205 that appears to be driving this problem East Dulwch ward councillors Rosie Shimell and myself have requested the planning decision be decided by a committee of councillors IF council planning officers are minded to grant planning permission.

Will keep people posted how this goes.

[ianr]

Can a planning committee refuse an application in order to help the tenant avoid the consequences to their security of tenure of their landlord's wish to do reconstruction of the premises?

[jamescpr90]

Lets hope the planning applicant does not conclude he is being victimised.

[jamescpr90]

Went pass this shop today , not a customer in sight.Their cafe next door was very busy.

[DaveR]

"To ensure proper scrutiny on planning application 13/AP/3205 that appears to be driving this problem East Dulwch ward councillors Rosie Shimell and myself have requested the planning decision be decided by a committee of councillors IF council planning officers are minded to grant planning permission."

The problem is not connected to the planning application in any meaningful way. If I was the applicant I'd be justifiably annoyed that local politicians appear to be taking into account irrelevant considerations when making planning decisions.

[Alan Medic]

'Installation of new shopfront (to include removal of front access to flat above); erection of single storey, rear extension (L-shaped) with rear refuse storage area and proposed glass/aluminum side roof section to ground floor shop; new rear access with steps to flat above; and new decked patio with fold out doors to flat at first floor level.'

What is there to scrutinise? Even if there was an arguement against this proposal, it could be amended I'm sure. That's not going to help keep the current tenants in situ. What's Plan B, Councillors?

[the-e-dealer]

yes and no, ! ianqr Wrote:

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> Can a planning committee refuse an application in

> order to help the tenant avoid the consequences to

> their security of tenure of their landlord's wish

> to do reconstruction of the premises?

[maria]

I am so sorry to hear this news. This shop is a great local asset and I can't believe someone can be so underhand!

Let me know if you need any support to stop this happening.

Maria

[grace3]

Please don't let on about the 'Castle' pub, keep it to yourselves, the landlady has no intention of growing 'produce' on her roof and the last 'row' in there was in 1986.

[lucky]

Hi Honeybee,

I have sent you a private message. T

[EPB]

Just a thought - when Runcent Joinery move out of their current premises, might it be possible to persuade the developers to include a shop in their plans .........?

[healey]

EPB Wrote:

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> Just a thought - when Runcent Joinery move out of

> their current premises, might it be possible to

> persuade the developers to include a shop in their

> plans .........?

Very much doubt it. It going to be a private house, as far as I know.

[EPB]

Oh, what a pity.

[Wiffwaff]

What about the site (which has been closed since before I moved to ED 7 yrs ago ) between William Rose and the Irish Shop. I always wonder why that site isn't used?

I love Pretty's and the cafe next door. Its crazy that landlords don't recognise the value of a successful, established retail business, especially when retail is generally in decline!

Being obsessed with money and increasing rent will just lead to a further decline in the high street.

[Cora]

That might be a great idea...I know the lady is very resistant to pressure for using it as a shop but if it was for a long established business she might be keener to support them?....

[unlurked]

Wiffwaff Wrote:

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> What about the site (which has been closed since

> before I moved to ED 7 yrs ago ) between William

> Rose and the Irish Shop. I always wonder why that

> site isn't used?

>

> I love Pretty's and the cafe next door. Its crazy

> that landlords don't recognise the value of a

> successful, established retail business,

> especially when retail is generally in decline!

>

> Being obsessed with money and increasing rent will

> just lead to a further decline in the high street.

If the owner chooses not to do anything with the premises so be it. People should mind their own business.

[the-e-dealer]

choosing not to do anything with a house or shop is everyones business. Land Banking is deleterious to the community.

[Peckhamrye]

Wot e-dealer said.

[unlurked]

Hardly land banking! It doesn't have any planning permissions unlike so many other premises in ED, and thats land banking. Leave the owner be.

[the-e-dealer]

So how many square feet to qualify as land banking? How many boarded up shops or empty homes is acceptable? 1,2 3 10 ? 100?

[Otta]

An old lady not wanting to live above a shop, assuming she owns the property, has every right to make that choice. On this one I am very much with unlurked. Leave her alone and mind your business!