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mako Wrote:

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> uncleglen. The spaces aren't near the entrance

> because parents are unfit you numpty. its to avoid

> the need for children to be walking through a busy

> car park where singletons reverse at high speed in

> a hurry to get back to their interesting lives.


So why put them in the busiest part of the car park, then? That's where this argument always falls down.

mako Wrote:

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> Only parent and disabled user cars need to go down

> that lane near the shop so it shouldnt be the

> busiest bit of the car park. even if it is is the

> busiest put then further away and they need to

> walk in a less busy bit AND the busy bit which is

> obviously worse


Or they could walk around the busy bit. And the bit where they are most likely to lose control of their kids (while pulling out/putting in car seats and shopping) is in the quiet bit.

No, it's the busiest bit because the pickup/set down spot is there and everyone who doesn't realise that all those spaces are reserved drive through there. Stick the parent/child spots at the back and the front of store will still be very busy.


As we note from this thread, there seems to be more than enough P/C spaces, since buddog found quite a few to park in. Even when the shop was supposedly quite busy.

anyone who has driven to a supermarket before knows that those spaces will be child/disabled. I suggest it is more a case of those like the OP who cause the trouble. Surprised that the disabled users havent come in for stick yet from the WUMs. Only I sometimes worry that those like Buddug arent wumming and really are so selfish.
I always assumed the reason the parent/child spaces are close to the entrance is to minimise the amount of time that small children spend in the vicinity of the car park. Even supervised, they have to be more at risk than an adult in that environment, so it always made sense to me to make sure they spend as little time in it as possible. Isn't the problem with putting the parent/child spaces at the back that parents and children still need to navigate the bit at the front and all the bits in between in any event? Or am I missing something?
I agree. I can't see what the big deal is here. It makes perfect sense to put parent/toddler parking in the safest part of the car park. So what if I have to park a bit further away. We are only talking metres, not miles. I don't know what was going through the mind of the OP, but I can't see any reason for anyone to park where they shouldn't. And if you have to wait for a space, then so be it.

OP, well done for admitting your fault and learning from the posts on here.


I suspect that fines/charges for these spaces are in place as, unfortunately, so many people won't obey societal rules without being beaten with a big stick.


I have no issues with parent and child parking, or the fines, for the record. And whilst I've never had a problem finding a space in that Sainsbury's car park, there have been plenty of other car parks where I've just had to have a bit of a drive around waiting for a space to become free. Maybe you could try that tactic next time.

mako Wrote:

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> Surely the 1% is saved for those who were already

> told not to park there but couldnt be bothered to move?


Sainsbury's 'fines' are essentially invoices. The 1% is saved for those drivers (note: not car owners) that can be proved in a court of law to have individually entered into a contract with the firm running the parking. No easy task.

You must pay: parking 'fines' from councils, Network Rail car parks, police tickets (but you should appeal if you think you've being unfairly ticketed)


You should bin: parking 'charges' from shopping centres, McDonald's, motorway services, supermarkets, basically anything from companies called 'Parking Eye' or 'Euro Parking' or similar. And bin the follow-up 'demands' from debt collectors, usually with the same PO Box as the original charge.

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