Things I hate about Scotland....

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The Borders...Welcome to Scotland....then it's fooking miles before you get to Edinboro/Glasgow

Bagpipes - can anyone make a case for them?

Bannockburn - one poxy battle, that delayed the inevitable, celebrated like it was Marathon or Waterloo or D_day

The Union - instigated by James the 6th of Scotland and not some alien invasion by the horrid english

Rant over

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Ps honuory mentions for Salmond, midges and 'the Old Firm"

[StraferJack]

Good effort. But you won't top this trolling of Scotland

[Alan Medic]

Scotland after independence

[Help-Ma-Boab]

NSFW: Trainspotting.

[numbers]

I can make a case for bagpipes dearest quids. and I say that as someone who, as a teenager, suffered greatly at the sounds of my younger brother learning to play the blasted things. Practising Piobaireachds over and over.

Bagpipes should ideally be accompanied by drums. Which reminds me, my other brother was learning to play those in the bedroom next door to mine.

I sometimes look back and wonder what it was that spurred me to leave home at 17 years of age ;-)

[numbers]

anyone read the invention of tradition by that old marxist eric hobsbawm who died a year ago or so?

tartan AND the kilt - invented by the english :))

[*Bob*]

I'm finding the run-up to the vote genuinely something of a buzz. How often is so black and white a decision which could result in real historical change left to a popular vote? And the turnout will surely be near-universal.

[steveo]

Devo max is a nasty shade of grey

[Salsaboy]

Will Alex Salmond be out of a job if they vote yes?

[Otta]

I assumed he'd be their prime minister which is why he's so desperate for it to happen. That alone would be enough to make me vote no, the self serving twat!

Will be interesting if there is a yes vote to see how long it takes for all the negotiating to take place.

[steveo]

Can't wait to see President Alex all gussied up to state visit the Queen and demand the keys for Holyrood. Then he'll send the Scottish navy to take possession of the oil platforms and evict the nukey submarines.

Then he'll have to print some money.

The job list is endless

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

Someone's made a case for them:

http://www.bagpipecase.com/

Anyway, whatever Quids can drum up gets trumped by one thing: tablet. QED.

[StraferJack]

All the scare stuff is nonsense tho

There is precedent in the uk within last 100 years

[Belle]

Tablet - yes! Tablet does trump most things.

And I can definitely make a case for the Borders! It's beautiful. And from next year there will be a train line from Edinburgh down to the Borders, for the first time since Beeching cut the line in the 60s. Beautiful countryside, rolling hills. I am biased though :)

[Burbage]

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> Bagpipes - can anyone make a case for them?

Oddly enough, yes. But I can't put the case any better than the glorious Kathryn Tickell who plays the Northumbrian pipes. The Highland Bagpipes are, of course, a different thing and, like the kilt, haggis, oatcake and shortbread, a rough-edged variety of the civilised version.

If there's something I will miss about Scotland, it's the variety of sardonic tramps that constitute their chief export, but I can't say I;ll miss them any more than the corrupt, criminal, grasping, lying, fraudulent and venal national bank which it seems I've been forced to own. The referendum is a useful start, but I can't help thinking that if Scotland hand been tied to Ireland, towed out to soemwhere deep and sunk, the last two centuries would have been a whole lot pleasanter for both everyone and the fishes.

[Help-Ma-Boab]

Stirling fuckin Albion.

[Alex K]

@Belle -- You sent me to Wikipaedia. The short-sightedness of ending railway service between Carlisle and Edinburgh... The new line is a scant thirty miles, a bit beyond Galashiels only, commuter trains: Better than nothing, though.

[MrBen]

Scotland is not best known for well planned, forward thinking infrastructure projects.

But this thread generally? 1/10 to quids and near zero for Burbages effort. Even Louisa's maggots are bigger and juicier.

[El Pibe]

I genuinely hope for a no, we are both more than the sum of our parts (ooeerr missus) but second worst campaign of all time (after lib dem electoral reform) may well have achieved a yes.

Best of luck frankly, I truly wish Scotland well but would happily see Salmond fall off something fatal. Proper shit that man.

[Jah Lush]

The seething sectarian hate and bile that goes on at an Auld Firm derby.

[Otta]

What El Pibe said.

[Belle]

Alex K Wrote:

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> @Belle -- You sent me to Wikipaedia. The

> short-sightedness of ending railway service

> between Carlisle and Edinburgh... The new line is

> a scant thirty miles, a bit beyond Galashiels

> only, commuter trains: Better than nothing,

> though.

Yes, would be much better but it's a start! after 50 odd years without any rail links... and a bus route from the Borders to Edin that took 1 hr 3/4 to cover 35 miles...

Hopefully if it is a success the line might be extended.

[Parkdrive]

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> The seething sectarian hate and bile that goes on

> at an Auld Firm derby.

Second that

[red devil]

Parkdrive Wrote:

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> Jah Lush Wrote:

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> > The seething sectarian hate and bile that goes

> on

> > at an Auld Firm derby.

> Second that

As opposed to the non-sectarian hate and bile that goes on at English games, and readily appears in our very own Football Focus thread...