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david_carnell Wrote:

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> Will you be paying your staff the London Living

> Wage?


Is this group confirmed to not do so? I notice that Mr Social Media Engagement has swerved this twice now.


Definitely has a bearing on whether or not I'll use them (or the Ritzy again).

Then I suppose that you will have to give up going to the cinema, cle, because I would bet that few, if any, cinema owners pay the living wage.


For heaven's sake, lets be positive - we stand a damn good chance of getting a cinema in ED. To quote (ironically) the late Mrs T - rejoice!

We've already done this argument to death on another thread. No cinema pays the LL. Hardly any London businesses do, only around 300 at the last count. Unless you're going to grow all your own food and never go out again, realise that this is a highly complicated issue not helped by unilateral statements that get us nowhere.

maxxi Wrote:

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> david_carnell Wrote:

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> > Will you be paying your staff the London Living

> > Wage?

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> No but they will be screening a grainy documentary

> about their plight.


:)

BrandNewGuy Wrote:

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> I work for an independent business and we pay

> (more than) the London Living Wage. Why do you

> think small businesses should be exempt? And what

> about 'unsuccessful' chains?



I don't think they 'should' be, but I'm realistic about the struggles of running a small, independent business - retail or F&B.

"Hardly any London businesses do, only around 300 at the last count."


300 is, I think, the number of employers formally accredited. The GLA report reveals that 88% of full time workers in London are paid the LLW or more, but that falls to just over 50% for part time workers.


I think the idea of calculating and publishing a LLW is a good one, because it puts forward a more realistic view of London living costs than the NMW, and is a good aspirational target for employers. But a single figure based on living costs across all types of households, and which is heavily skewed by the impact of benefits, is always going to be slightly arbitrary when applied to a specific job in a specific place. Consequently it's a bit foolish IMHO to treat it as a gold standard to judge the ethics of businesses.

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