The 2014 World Cup thread

[aquarius moon]

El Pibe Wrote:

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> erm, yeah, a bit disturbed by that comment too.

> But you know, donkeys, siestas, @#$%&!!!

Bull fighting (resulting in the death of a bull), ripping heads off chickens for sport (resulting in the death of a chicken), the lancing of the bull festival (resulting in another death of a bull), the PeroPalo festival that terrorises a donkey.

Up until a few years ago, throwing a live goat from a tower (resulting in the death of the goat).

All in the name of what? Festivals?

Until Spain start respecting animals & seeing them as living creatures rather than unfeeling toys they can play with, I'll continue to hate the country.

[Jah Lush]

El Pibe Wrote:

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> It's like a template going forward!!

>

> "Couldn't give a toss. Spurs have had their day.

> They were fabulous at their peak (about 100 years

> ago when Paul mariner played for them) but now way

> past their best. Hate to say I told you so.

> Congratulations to west ham, over and over again."

Paul Mariner never played for Spurs. Yeah, West Ham last season did the treble over us. Fair enough. You've had your day in the sun. Well three to be precise.

Anyway, back to World Cup. I hope our lads have written their postcards.

[maxxi]

I had rabo del toro once in Ronda after the Goyescas - loved it. Didn't see any bullfighting though - tickets were horrendously expensive!

Seriously AqM have a word - there is a huge anti-bullfighting movement in Spain and judging a whole country in this way and who shall 'scape whipping, eh?

[aquarius moon]

maxxi Wrote:

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> Seriously AqM have a word - there is a huge

> anti-bullfighting movement in Spain and judging a

> whole country in this way and who shall 'scape

> whipping, eh?

Same as there was a huge anti fox-hunting, anti badger-baiting, anti hare-coursing movement in the UK.

Difference is, our country cared enough to do something about it & get it banned.

If the majority of Spain felt the same, why is it not banned?

Because they obviously don't care enough & it's a way of life to them,

[maxxi]

Hmm, although fox hunting with hounds in this country is still allowed as long as you shoot the feckers dead when they've been flushed - so we're not entirely cuddly. Maybe bullfighting where, after a bit of cape work, the bull was shot would suit?

It's okay to like Barcelona, btw, they've banned bullfighting. And they're in Spain.

[Mick Mac]

Jah. Order of home before the postcards joke

1) Tommy Docherty 1974

2) Mick Mac 2 months ago

3) Jah 2 weeks ago

4) Jah 1 week ago

5) Jah today, again

[maxxi]

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> Jah. Order of home before the postcards joke

> 1) Tommy Docherty 1974

> 2) Mick Mac 2 months ago

> 3) Jah 2 weeks ago

> 4) Jah 1 week ago

> 5) Jah today, again

Makes me wonder, as I watch Cameroun fall apart, does anyone still send postcards? If friends/family are on holiday now I get FB photos of their trip in near-real time and can't say I've had a postcard in years - though they were once a regular, if seasonal, part of my postal delivery. Room marked with an x? - no , here's a video of it the moment we arrived.

Oh, and Hrvatska!

[El Pibe]

Ah you're probably right Jah, I was just trying to cast my mind back to my early 80s panini album, all very fuzzy.

AQ I think it's an utterly ludicrous position to hate Spaniards based on a single facet if their society, but that's your right. I started a long and boring post about the hypocrisy of this but lost the will to live, We'll just take each other off our Christmas card lists shall we.

[steveo]

Animal rights/World Cup.

I was in the beautiful Cotswolds over the sunny weekend. My friends - vegetarians - live in a stunning cottage in a private lane at the end of which are three aircraft hanger-sized sheds with possibly 30,000 chickens inside them.

Suffocating, sweating, screaming.

I hate the Cotswolds

C'mon England

[Mick Mac]

Mariner was Arsenal for a time EP.

[StraferJack]

Mariner was also one of the most gifted actors of his generation in Escape to Victory.

Ahem

[El Pibe]

must have got the two teams confused, very easy up stevenage way....:-/

[Jah Lush]

But mostly he was Ipswich Town.

[El Pibe]

Indeed he was, pretty sure that's the team I had him in. I think my treasured spurs sticker was Steve Archibald on reflection.

Aaaanyway, do i go from 2 teams to none in the space of two days?

[Otta]

AQ you must hate a lot of countries.

I imagine they are slightly reluctant to ban bull fighting in Spain because of all the money it brings in from English tourists who want to see it.

Anyway, COME ON ENGLAND!!!!!!

For one day can people stop with the negativity and just try to cheer the team. Some people seem to genuinely get more enjoyment from writing how bad they were than they would from seeing them do well. I don't get it.

I'm very nervous about tonight and accept that we could well be sent home, but equally if he swaps Rooney and Sterling / Welbeck around (which he will) we COULD do well. Would like to see Lullana start but he won't.

[steveo]

I concur

[El Pibe]

I apologise, wasn't trying to be negative, just resigned because I'm still all sad about last night.

I don't get all the (rational) Spain haters though, there's alot of it on social media from light-hearted schadenfreude (perfectly acceptable) to some really pretty nasty stuff.

I'm really proud of the last few years of this team, and I'd have thought they delighted us all with their football, but haters will hate I guess.

TIme to shake it up a little bit as Del Bosque has said.

As for tonight I'm nervous, I will of course be cheering and it will lift the spirits of the nation if they win.

This nation is barely acknowledging there's a world cup on at all, "soccer? God no, GAA..." etc.

sour....grapes ;)

[Jah Lush]

And me.

He's got to have Lallana in over Wellbeck but he won't will he. Put Rooney in his favoured position and if he's still shit stick Ross Barclay on in his place. Come on England!

[MrBen]

Huge game tonight with a lot to lose for both teams. Good luck to England.

[MrBen]

Anyone had a good WC pub viewing experience locally thus far? Or will everyone be at home with an economy six pack of Carling?

[aquarius moon]

Animal abuse is rife in many countries but Spain is one of the worst.

I was asked why I dislike the country & that is my reason. I've never been there & never will.

Anyway, back to the football.

Despite the shed full of chickens in the Cotswolds, I'll def be supporting England tonight.

Agree about Lallana & Barkley.

I would like to see Lambert play too.

[StraferJack]

you do know the anti hunting ban in this country is largely ineffective and ignored right?

[El Pibe]

seriously, lets leave it behind, she's said her piece. I think it's insane, but it'ss her loss. Back to the cup in hand.

So far only holland and germany have shown any real potential (I almost said spirit, but we've had that in spades form some of the minnows).

But I guess group games are often about just getting through.

It's been an interesting world cup for sure, but yet to really light up, be great if England could provide that.

[*Bob*]

Everyone knows Spaniels are cruel and eat their young etc.

As a WC-only football viewer, personally I'm really enjoying not seeing the same old array of Engerlish faces underperforming in their usual lacklustre way. Just seeing Lampard sitting on the bench was enough to put a dampener on things. If they could just ditch that potato-headed Wayne guy I'd be a happy man.

[steveo]

Yes, the Lampard effect. He looks like a loser whenever he is in an England shirt and the youngsters must be able to smell it on him