Rebekah Brooks cleared, Andy Coulson found guilty........

[Otta]

I think she's rather attractive (if getting on a bit).

[Loz]

El Pibe Wrote:

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> I think it boils down to people just don't like

> proper gingas, especially if they look vaguely

> like a witch.

>

> Thogh beating grant mitchell up is pretty funny.

Yeah, because domestic violence is just such a laughing matter.

[david_carnell]

Oh don't be so po-faced Loz.

He's not done a Fabricant has he?

[Loz]

Oh, god it's that Guardianesque hypocrisy again. Would you be so flippant if he's given her a bit of a slap?

Really, I do not find any domestic violence a laughing matter. I'm really surprised at both of you. I expected better.

[*Bob*]

It's like the Clarkson / Morgan incident.

Technically assault, but, well..

[Loz]

Actually I think Grant Mitchell/Ross Kemp was pretty brave getting this out into the open. He risked (and it seems is still getting) a lot of derision from the hypocrisy brigade.

Honestly, I am pretty disgusted with some people I expected better from.

[Jeremy]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> Prezza

Who?

[*Bob*]

John Prezza

[Jeremy]

Oh, OK. Yeah you're right, don't give a shit about him.

[El Pibe]

This was to domestic violence what Punch and Judy is to gritty and poignant documentary.

Equating the two in a snotty fashion is rather guardianista shurely?

[Loz]

El Pibe Wrote:

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> This was to domestic violence what Punch and Judy

> is to gritty and poignant documentary.

> Equating the two in a snotty fashion is rather

> guardianista shurely?

OK, I'll bite - why do you say that? What is it about that incident makes it so dismissable? A guy being hit by a women? Celebrity - did you find the Chris Brown/Rihanna incident hilariously funny as well?

Or is a punch in the mouth not a high enough level of domestic violence to take seriously?

[El Pibe]

Ok I'll counter bite .

My understanding was that it was a one off slap in the heat of the moment, the mainstay of the Hollywood romcom for the best part of 80 years.

The humour arises not from the minor violence itself, but from the irony that Ross kemps entire career is predicated on his hard man image.

Sigh, how tedious having to explain that. So do we now need to censor every great Spencer Tracey and Katharine Hepburn moment?

If of course I'm wrong and it was actually part of a cycle of walk into door style abuse I can only apologise for my insensitivity.

[*Bob*]

Are you really going to pursue this, Loz?

Just to win a point at the sixth form debate on sexual equality?

Really?

[Loz]

Yeah, really. Because it represents a much bigger issue.

[Jah Lush]

david_carnell Wrote:

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> Jah Lush Wrote:

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> -----

> > Doesn't make it right though.

>

> Didn't you used to work for a red-top? At any

> point did you get wind that the paper would go to

> illegal efforts to get stories? Phone-hacking or

> anything else? Because anyone I've spoken reckons

> it's rife and you'd have to live under a rock to

> not be aware of dodgy goings on.

I did but not at News International. I know there was always "dodgy goings on" as you say even before my time but I wasn't what you might call in the loop. However, it would not have surprised me in the slightest if phone hacking had gone on where I was based. Most tabloid journalists I've known over the years would sell their own mother to get an exclusive. It's not an honourable job. I can honestly say I've never met a "red top news journalist" I could trust. I despise them. They're all two-faced cunts.

[StraferJack]

PLENTY to read about the background here

http://tinyurl.com/oz83ox5

[ultraburner]

El Pibe, nail--->head.

[Jeremy]

Loz Wrote:

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> Yeah, really. Because it represents a much bigger issue.

Which is?

Although of course everyone has the right to live free from fear of violence, sexual equality is not about pretending men and women are equally vulnerable physically.

[Jeremy]

Otta Wrote:

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> I think she's rather attractive

Now that's just not right.

[steveo]

As an older gent I'm forced to agree the Titian haired one has a certain allure

But unlike Grant/Rupert/Tony/Andy and despite my devastating good looks, I could not by any stretch of the imagination be regarded as a stepping stone to success so I don't suppose I'd get the chance

[El Pibe]

oh god yeah, she may be evil, but the ginger witch look definitely does something unhealthy to my psyche.

Or maybe its just redheads with power....

 

[Otta]

Obviously a bit old for me, but A few years younger and why not.

I like a redhead.

[steveo]

There have been four ladies in red in my life: the violin player, the one with the 20inch waist and the twins who used to send me little notes in primary school

They all hold a special place in my heart

Edited for legal reasons

[Jeremy]

I have no problem with redheads at all. In fact, theoretically I am not averse to the idea of a flame haired, power-crazed, evil witch. Just not this one. No siree.

Now, who will be the first person to be offended by the change in direction of this conversation?

[El Pibe]

on a theme.....