I've just seen the 2 women rummaging through bins!

[Alan Medic]

If people are concerned about other people rummaging in their bins, what do they feel after they have been collected and emptied? What sort of world is it where some people need to rummage in bins and others get upset about it? You're only passing through this planet and some people have to do not very nice things to help them survive.

[Sophron]

Alan have you actually read this thread?

[Alan Medic]

A lot of it. Why?

[aquarius moon]

It has nothing to do with race, colour, background, age, religion etc etc.

I don't actually want ANYBODY coming in my front garden & going through my bin.

My rubbish is personal to me, whether it's torn up letters/documents with personal details ( I don't have a shredder) or anything else that belongs to me.

I don't know how people think this is OK. It's trespassing, stealing & an invasion of privacy.

And no-one knows for sure if these people are just desperately looking for food/clothes etc or partaking in criminal activity such as ID theft.

[Sophron]

Well, a few of us have gone in to reasons why we are "upset about it".

I agree that it's not a perfect world and it's sad that people are going through bins and there are certainly more important issues to sort out.

But it doesn't make it any less unacceptable because it's a minor issue in the grand scheme of things,does it? which is what I think your driving at.

There is a school of thought that by getting the petty issues right you make the whole a bit better (which is how New York became a nicer place to be than it was in the eighties).

[Jacqui5254]

cle, Sophron and the like...its only by a fluke of nature that you drew the long straw and live the entitled life you do.

Clearly, some people were less lucky.

How about a bit of generosity, tolerance and UNDERSTANDING of the dreadful situation some people are in?

Reading this diatribe over petty issues really makes me embarrassed to be part of the East Dulwich community that is sometimes represented on this forum.

You need to find a gated community in and lock yourselves in.

[aquarius moon]

I certainly didn't draw a long straw Jacqui5254 & you have no idea of my circumstances.

I just like my privacy & don't want strangers in my front garden.

[niros777]

So what??????

Why would they be embarassed???

[niros777]

So what??????

Why would they be embarassed???

Get a life.

[Alan Medic]

I don't want to get all preachy but this film shows how lucky some of us are. Yes, it's on this planet. The one we live on.

If people are worried about ID theft then why put something in your bin which might be stolen? Has it not occured to you that just because the bin is emptied does not mean your 'rubbish' is safe?

[Sophron]

Alan it's a moving film and highlights the indisputable iniquities of our world.

I?ve already highlighted the plight of these people as potentially vulnerable to exploitation by unscrupulous gangs.

Let me ask you a question, do you think Southwark council should give them access to the dump on the Old Kent Road? Would you be happy allowing unfettered access for immigrants to the clearing dump, creating our very own favela?

If we turn a blind eye to scavenging from our bins regardless of data theft, clothing or scrap metal we also encourage unlicensed commerce in which those individuals who we purport to care about are then exploited.

IF they are illegal immigrants then they shouldn?t be here and need help from the authorities (and that is another debate).

And this doesn?t negate everyone?s entitlement to privacy, respect for property and security from intrusion.

So those who make accusations of intolerance, meanness and lack of understanding I encourage you to think it through a little more before knee jerk ?embarrassed to live among you? reactions.

Also here is a charity that helps:

http://www.migranthelp.org

[uncleglen]

If the 2 women rummaging through the bins are not challenged, how long will it be before they spread the word about property layout, security, timings of empty houses etc to their pals and we have a plague of burglaries etc

[Ron70]

Maybe the simplest way to put this problem / disagreement to bed is for all those happy with someone going through their bins to leave a sign stating this outside their property!

Ron70

[Alan Medic]

Did anyone say they shouldn't be challenged? If saw I someone looking in my bin I'd ask them what they hoped to find there. As for them spreading the word, I'd imagine there are easier ways of getting that information than going through the contents of a bin.

[VintageSally]

This thread reminds me of when supermarkets sue people for taking out of date food (that they've discarded) out of their bins.

[Ron70]

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> Did anyone say they shouldn't be challenged? If

> saw I someone looking in my bin I'd ask them what

> they hoped to find there. As for them spreading

> the word, I'd imagine there are easier ways of

> getting that information than going through the

> contents of a bin.

Oh, so you're against people going through your bins? I misunderstood...

Ron70

[Alan Medic]

Frankly what's in my bins is just rubbish. If someone was going through it I'd ask why. I didn't say I'm against it. I'd be curious though.

[Ron70]

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> Frankly what's in my bins is just rubbish. If

> someone was going through it I'd ask why. I didn't

> say I'm against it. I'd be curious though.

It sounds like I'm niggling now, I'm trying not to, however, I'm not sure I follow, are you for or against people rummaging through "your" bins?

Ron70

[Delainie]

Cle, if it concerned you so much why didn't you do the brave thing and tell them to get out of the garden? If I saw someone going through my neighbours bin I would have told them to get out. That's what's wrong with this society, watch it happen,take a photo then write about it. This is why people do things like this and far worse. People are very funny!

[lostcat]

Ok, I won't rummage in any more bins

[Alan Medic]

Ron70 Wrote:

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> Alan Medic Wrote:

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> > Frankly what's in my bins is just rubbish. If

> > someone was going through it I'd ask why. I

> didn't

> > say I'm against it. I'd be curious though.

>

>

> It sounds like I'm niggling now, I'm trying not

> to, however, I'm not sure I follow, are you for or

> against people rummaging through "your" bins?

>

> Ron70

It's not a case of for or against for me. It's why.I've left stuff out for the council to collect and its often been gone before they were due to collect. To me it was of no use but if something is of use to someone else I have no problem with it. If I came across them I would still ask why or how.

[Ron70]

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> Ron70 Wrote:

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> > Alan Medic Wrote:

> >

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> > -----

> > > Frankly what's in my bins is just rubbish. If

> > > someone was going through it I'd ask why. I

> > didn't

> > > say I'm against it. I'd be curious though.

> >

> >

> > It sounds like I'm niggling now, I'm trying not

> > to, however, I'm not sure I follow, are you for

> or

> > against people rummaging through "your" bins?

> >

> > Ron70

>

> It's not a case of for or against for me. It's

> why.I've left stuff out for the council to collect

> and its often been gone before they were due to

> collect. To me it was of no use but if something

> is of use to someone else I have no problem with

> it. If I came across them I would still ask why or

> how.

I've done exactly the same, left "stuff" out on the street which, to me, is an open invite to help yourself. However, I'd be pretty unhappy if someone helped themselves to my bins contents while I was sat watching TV in the living room. I'd be interested (and amazed) to hear if anyone on this forum would be happy with that happening!

Ron70

[niros777]

GET A LIFE. GET A LIFE. GET A LIFE.

YOU SAD LITTLE PERSON.

GROW UP.

[Ron70]

niros777 Wrote:

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> GET A LIFE. GET A LIFE. GET A LIFE.

> YOU SAD LITTLE PERSON.

> GROW UP.

Are you addressing that comment to me?

Ron70

[Otta]

I can't imagine anyone being actively "for" people going through their bin, but that is not to say they'd really care too much if anyone did.