Haberdashers Consultation Meeting 10th July 7pm

[MarkE]

Distance within ability bandings, from my interpretation.

And yes, they preferred single-sex classes up to Y9

The rest isn't my fort?. There was mention of Charter by the leader of the council, but he rightly sidestepped displaying any bias.

[kristymac1]

Hi Kate, my take on it was:

> - What seems to be their preference for the

> criteria for entry, will it be distance,

> 'ability'-bands, affiliation with local primaries,

> or some combination of these?

Distance & banding - no affiliation to local primary schools. Distance not necessarily measured from the school site - nodal points was mentioned (when questioned)

>

> - It will be a mixed school but will there be

> single-sex classes up to Year 9 as I believe they

> have in one of their other schools.

Single sex up to Yr 9, mixed recreational activities

>

> - Does it sound like there be ways for children

> living miles away to go this school (via music

> 'scholarships' or whatever?)

No intention to have a scholarship entry for specific specialism

>

> - Apart from music, will they want to be known for

> any other specialisms?

The specifically said they weren't intending to have any specialism

>

> - How big do they anticipate the outdoor

> playground/sports area will be (they presumably

> have a rough idea of the building footprint)? Do

> they expect all sport to be done on-site, or do

> they plan to share facilities elsewhere as Harris

> Boys Academy does.

They didn't touch on this at all.

> - Do they have anything to say about the rival

> Charter bid? Why go with Haberdashers instead of

> Charter?

No mention other than there was another bid by Charter.

Kristy x

[bonaome]

They were very explicit that they do not have a firm idea or preference for admission criteria beyond a) no lottery or random element and b) no specialism / scholarship element. They said that therefore there will have to be a distance criteria. Distance from where, and whether banded or not is something they seek opinion on. There was a form in the packs handed out for people to fill in on this question.

[parentsteeringgroup]

Thanks for this banaome, you've summarised well on the admissions front. What may not have been clear last night is that it is possible to set up a nodal point or points from which to measure distance. These nodal admissions points would mean people living in the 'black hole' areas would be in catchment. The parent steering group will push on this if it's what the community wants. Please put it on your feedback forms if you think it's important.

[clux]

Thanks for the meeting. I thought it was really useful to meet the staff from Haberdashers. And speaking as someone who lives in a black hole of no secondary schools, and who has a non-catholic daughter due to start secondary school in 2016, I feel really pleased that they will consider public opinion when it comes to finally deciding how the admissions will work.

[BeccaL]

Thanks for the info re nodal points - as someone who lives in one of the school black holes that's really interesting. I thought the meeting was really useful and they had a clear focus on setting up a good comprehensive school, which I think is great. Unfortunately I had to leave before questions (daughter needed to go to bed!) but thought it was useful to get a feel for the federation - they seemed very focused on education as a priority.

[parentsteeringgroup]

If anybody didn't hand in their feedback form or their form registering support last night, please could you post it to: Hatcham East Dulwich School Project, Haberdashers' Aske's Federation, Pepys Road, London SE14 5SF

Or you can email [email protected]

If anybody would like their forms in an electronic format please send a PM. Thanks!

[parentsteeringgroup]

Letter from Michael Gove to Tessa Jowell:

http://tessajowell.net/uploads/75682827-96a8-1334-592c-2fefd3813708.pdf

While Southwark as a whole may need more primary places our locality has a far more pressing need for a secondary school, as last night's meeting clearly showed.

[clux]

Michael Gove scares me. That letter makes very depressing reading.

[BeccaL]

Doesn't it - really doesn't say anything helpful...

[redjam]

God, this is depressing. How do we persuade Gove that we have a secondary crisis looming??? Letter to him? Tessa Jowell? Can Southwark councillor Peter John intervene, as presumably he knows the figures most accurately? What can we parents do, in practical terms?

[FHB]

Does he not realise that if we need extra primary places in this area, then very soon we are going to need extra secondary places?

[Shuggy]

How were they able to demonstrate public support for this primary in the free school application process when no one seems to have even heard about it until after it has actually been approved!

[parentsteeringgroup]

Suggest as many of you as possible contact your ward Councillor; Peter John (leader of Southwark Council) and Tessa Jowell / Harriet Harman to say that you support the secondary school campaign and do not support a Harris Nunhead Primary on the Dulwich Hospital site.

The Parent Steering Group will do the same.

We are trying to dig out figures to back this up. Will post them here when we have them.

If you follow us on twitter @NewSchDulwich and on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/NewSchDulwich it helps to swell our campaign numbers and demonstrate local demand. As will registering your support for your chosen provider for the proposed new secondary school if you haven't done so already.

[loveED86]

FHB Wrote:

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> Does he not realise that if we need extra primary

> places in this area, then very soon we are going

> to need extra secondary places?

exactly!!

[BeccaL]

Can someone put up the numbers which were shown last night about the bulge classes in Southwark primaries and the way these will affect the secondary requirements in future - these should be fairly persuasive...

[parentsteeringgroup]

We are working on this Becca. Watch this space.

[Shuggy]

I think they used figures from Southwark's report on school places strategy which was commented upon on this thread when it came out back in March.

It shows a defect of secondary places from 2016, the shortfall reaching -527 places by 2019 if no further schools are built. The numbers are borough wide only though and it concludes:

"Examining demand and supply at this more local level indicates that the pressure

for places is likely to be felt in the south of the borough from 2016 onwards, flowing

through to the rest of the borough from 2018 onwards."

http://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/documents/s45063/Report%20School%20Places%20Strategy%20Update.pdf

[parentsteeringgroup]

Bawdy nan - realised that your question hasn't been answered here. Sorry.

The proposed new secondary school will be six-form entry. The school will be modelled on the Hatcham College school but won't have a music scholarship. There is also scope to do admissions differently in response to community feedback.

If you want a feedback form to fill out and submit to Habs please send a PM.

[intexasatthe moment]

I would read " scope " as the ability or opportunity to do some thing . I'd be interested to know whether there's the intention to alter the existing Habs admissions by responding to community feedback . And when that intention will be made clear and the admissions strategy known .

[parentsteeringgroup]

In Texas that intention was made clear on Thursday night.

[bawdy-nan]

thanks parentsteeringgroup

[intexasatthe moment]

yes ,thanks for clarifying that . I wasn't there so hard to get a grip on the nuances . written word can be misleading sometimes - to me anyway !

[loveED86]

So Michael Gove is being replaced ,I wonder what affect this will have on new socondary school proposal!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2691813/Waving-goodbye-Tory-veteran-Ken-Clarke-prepares-end-ministerial-career-Cameron-reshuffle-promotes-women.html

[LondonMix]

Okay, now that Gove is out, what is the plan exactly? I imagine it is still important to petition to ensure the hospital site is squandered to create a primary school for Nunhead in the wrong location and that in fact is not needed.