Sadness at changing atmosphere of East Dulwich

[cordsm]

Do people in Penge, Peckham, Nunhead, Honor Oak etc complain about all the 'blow-ins' from ED, before selling up & moving out to Kent. Bet they do:)

My parents live in Surrey & I've heard them complain about how the area has changed, how the community feel is disappearing, how the new 'range rover' types are rude & pushy. Exactly the same comments that you find on this thread.

Perhaps, people in the UK just like something to have a moan about sometimes, apart from the weather? A kind of national sport...

[Otta]

"My parents live in Surrey & I've heard them complain about how the area has changed, how the community feel is disappearing, how the new 'range rover' types are rude & pushy. Exactly the same comments that you find on this thread."

They're the one's that have had their babies in ED, then move out for more space, same scum.

[thecaptain]

cle Wrote:

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> > Born and bred in London, i think London went to

> > the dogs years ago, Dulwich is probably the

> > closest thing to a quintessential English

> country

> > village feel in London - people cling onto

> that,

> > and to be honest i dont blame them as most of

> > London is an absolute dump.

>

> Not since the 1700s has London had a country

> village feel.

> It's a huge global city, why would a village feel

> be an aspiration?! People should bugger off to

> Kent if that's what they want. Ludicrous.

>

> SE has never been better - it's just that SE5 and

> SE15 are now far more interesting, varied,

> creative and better connected than SE22.

Its ok Cle i can correct you as you completely got the wrong end of the stick, as i was referring to Dulwich not London, and i disagree that something in a 'village' feel is aspiring right next to a "huge global city", meaning you can get the same vibe without as you put it "buggering off to Kent".

SE5-SE15 are complete sh%tholes btw (scuse my french).

[pinecone]

thecaptain Wrote:

> SE5-SE15 are complete sh%tholes btw (scuse my

> french).

Are you including all 10 postcodes in that?

[Loz]

DulwichVilliageLady could learn a lot from this as to how to start a trolling thread.

[cle]

thecaptain Wrote:

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> cle Wrote:

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> > thecaptain Wrote:

> >

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> > -----

> > > Born and bred in London, i think London went

> to

> > > the dogs years ago, Dulwich is probably the

> > > closest thing to a quintessential English

> > country

> > > village feel in London - people cling onto

> > that,

> > > and to be honest i dont blame them as most of

> > > London is an absolute dump.

> >

> > Not since the 1700s has London had a country

> > village feel.

> > It's a huge global city, why would a village

> feel

> > be an aspiration?! People should bugger off to

> > Kent if that's what they want. Ludicrous.

> >

> > SE has never been better - it's just that SE5

> and

> > SE15 are now far more interesting, varied,

> > creative and better connected than SE22.

>

> Its ok Cle i can correct you as you completely got

> the wrong end of the stick, as i was referring to

> Dulwich not London, and i disagree that something

> in a 'village' feel is aspiring right next to a

> "huge global city", meaning you can get the same

> vibe without as you put it "buggering off to

> Kent".

>

> SE5-SE15 are complete sh%tholes btw (scuse my

> french).

I knew you meant Dulwich, my points stands that London as a whole has not been country villages for a long time. And when they were, they were actually in the countryside!

People can like a 'villagey feel' but by no means should it be a reason to mark down a big city. Oxymoronic to say the least.

But it's that awful tweeness in our false British psyche - village green cricket and all that. Despite the fact that we are a country of car dependent suburbanites. Disingenuous nonsense. Us in SE5/SE15 and yes the beauteous SE22, are in the minority living in period housing which isn't in decaying post-industrial inner city areas.

[thecaptain]

pinecone Wrote:

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> thecaptain Wrote:

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> > SE5-SE15 are complete sh%tholes btw (scuse my

> > french).

>

> Are you including all 10 postcodes in that?

lol, I'm more surprised at that question, i was waiting for all the liberals to have a pop at me!.

[Jeremy]

Otta Wrote:

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> They're the one's that have had their babies in

> ED, then move out for more space, same scum.

Nail. Hit. On the head. People who move house are scum.

[EastDulwichMan]

Loz Wrote:

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> DulwichVilliageLady could learn a lot from this as

> to how to start a trolling thread.

Aint that the truth! :-)

Lived in East Dulwich all my life I can't say its changed too much over the years. It seems to be going through the same usual cycles as anywhere.

[Otta]

cle Wrote:

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> But it's that awful tweeness in our false British

> psyche - village green cricket and all that.

^^^^^ This This This This This!!!!!!

Bunting, cupcakes, street parties.

Fuck off!!!!

[Otta]

Loz Wrote:

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> DulwichVilliageLady could learn a lot from this as

> to how to start a trolling thread.

Haha, bang on.

[david_carnell]

Otta Wrote:

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> > But it's that awful tweeness in our false

> British

> > psyche - village green cricket and all that.

>

>

> ^^^^^ This This This This This!!!!!!

>

> Bunting, cupcakes, street parties.

>

> @#$%& off!!!!

I'll give you cupcakes but street parties?

Sometimes you just want to be a misanthrope for the sake of it.

[Jeremy]

I have a ridiculously sweet tooth so actually like cupcakes (even though they are of course totally lame). Street parties are actually a pretty good idea in London, where let's face it, not many of us know many of our neighbours.

[Otta]

Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of get togethers and street parties, it's the effort to harp back to 1977 and recreate everything that was dismissed as naff years ago.

Plus on a personal level I find mingling / talking to people I don't know exceedingly painful so I'd be the miserable git that hid indoors.

[Jeremy]

Otta Wrote:

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> Plus on a personal level I find mingling / talking

> to people I don't know exceedingly painful so I'd

> be the miserable git that hid indoors.

That's why it's a good excuse to drink a few cans.

[cle]

I just don't get that misty-eyed pining for the quintessential English village and that whole green and pleasant land crud. We live in buzzy, creative, dynamic London where things happen and that malarkey is irrelevant and frankly, alien.

But still it's a yardstick for certain folk re: London neighbourhoods.

[Jah Lush]

Otta Wrote:

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> Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of get

> togethers and street parties, it's the effort to

> harp back to 1977 and recreate everything that was

> dismissed as naff years ago.

1977 was the Queen's Silver Jubilee year and in itself was a naff throwback to when England celebrated Empire Day with street parties. As a teenager in '77 I hated all that crap and didn't go to any. Instead, you'd probably have found me and most of my age group speeding off our tits in the pub grumbling "bollocks to the jubilee" and playing the Sex Pistols' God Save The Queen at full volume to piss off the flag waving knobs.

[maxxi]

Otta Wrote:

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> I'm hoping the state will start sending me food

> vouchers because I can't be trusted not to drink

> all my money away.

Not until you pony up some Folk Art we can sell to the tourists interested in ED's pre-civilised culture - you lazy feckin' parasite.

[Otta]

That's why I chose 77, but interesting to hear you say that that in itself was also a throwback.

[Millhaven]

My Everton supporting mate told me he hated growing up in Liverpool as there were constant street parties being held in honour of Liverpool winning stuff. Early 70s.

[cordsm]

All this village green/naff nostalgia/cupcake chat reminds me that it's ONLY TWO WEEKS TIL THE START OF THE GREAT BRITISH BAKE-OFF!! Of course, none of you will be watching it! I will though, as I love Mel & Sue, plus I live in hope that the squirrel from Series 1 returns:)

[Otta]

I fancied Mel about 18 years ago if that counts.

[Alan Medic]

Is your problem sadness or ED? I just can't see myself moping around because an area has changed when there are more important things in life. So if you really are sad then get over it as you are wasting your precious time.

[????]

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> Otta Wrote:

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> > Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of get

> > togethers and street parties, it's the effort

> to

> > harp back to 1977 and recreate everything that

> was

> > dismissed as naff years ago.

>

> 1977 was the Queen's Silver Jubilee year and in

> itself was a naff throwback to when England

> celebrated Empire Day with street parties. As a

> teenager in '77 I hated all that crap and didn't

> go to any. Instead, you'd probably have found me

> and most of my age group speeding off our tits in

> the pub grumbling "bollocks to the jubilee" and

> playing the Sex Pistols' God Save The Queen at

> full volume to piss off the flag waving knobs.

I wasn't quite sneaking into pubs age and speed was mystical thing we dreamed of - But drinking Cider, smoking No6 and ripping up the plastic union jack flags that were everywhere to stick on our jackets to pogo to GSTQ - The Sex Pistols, is my memory.

[northlondoner]

Tre: matinee performance of Gt Britain. Decent play ...nice gags but little bite

Rahrah: yikes, busted ! btw always wondered are you the person who runs the shop on Upland ?Re kids ...oddly feel the Peck is more suitable for me now that my kid is grown (ish)

Jeremy : yeah the new hood seems way cooler and more relevant. I too was ejected from ED by house price inflation.

Was terrified of moving to the Peck but now love it