Best Boozer in East Dulwich

[Millhaven]

???? Wrote:

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> Yup - EDT 1980s - one side old Irish/West indian

> the other Millwall upstairs the 'trendy yuppies'

> :).

haha! I was in the audience at one of the EDT comedy nights and the compare asked some slightly late arrivals had they made the mistake of going into the pub instead of the side door that led up to the comedy bar? They all replied "Yes", to which he responded: "bit of an experience for you I bet"

[david_carnell]

Jeremy Wrote:

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> Sutton... good schools apparently. Loads of the

> people from my office seem to live round there for

> that reason...

Excellent schools. I went to one of them. The town is a shit hole though and all the kids come from surrounding, nicer, areas.

This review of the "boozer" the Nags Head in Camberwell http://www.the-daily-news.co.uk/2011/12/possibly-rough-local-pub-youre-scared-to-go-to-but-were-not-no6-the-nags-head-camberwell-road-se5.html#more made me chuckle for the final paragraph nails where the truly rough and scary pubs are:

The genuinely scary pubs are not these places, but the ubiquitous Fluids and Lushes of small towns around the country, with their sans serif font signs, ever-changing names and relentless ?two for one" shots deals. They thrive while characterful pubs like these die out. There's a moral there somewhere. Just don't ask the Nag's Head barmaid to find it...

Though I still won't step foot in the Dolphin.

And the Nags Head wasn't rough or scary when I went in at Xmas - just rubbish. One of the worst pints I've ever drunk.

[maxxi]

Parkdrive Wrote:

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> That's interesting, why did you feel the need to

> put in an explanation for the last sentence? Do

> you think the upper middle class EDFers wouldn't

> understand?

Yes.

ETA:

Pardrive wrote:

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>I'd love to know the location of these pubs being likened to wild west saloons, nobody has actually mentioned where they are >or what they are called. Do they exist?

Used to Parky - almost any pub in Coventry city centre in the late 70s early 80s. The- Alhambra, Silver Sword, City Tavern, Bier Keller, Penny Black, Three Tuns, White Bear, Yates's, etc...

[titch juicy]

maxxi Wrote:

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> Parkdrive Wrote:

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> -----

>

> > That's interesting, why did you feel the need

> to

> > put in an explanation for the last sentence? Do

> > you think the upper middle class EDFers

> wouldn't

> > understand?

>

> Yes.

>

> ETA:

>

> Pardrive wrote:

> -----------------------------

>

> >I'd love to know the location of these pubs being

> likened to wild west saloons, nobody has actually

> mentioned where they are >or what they are called.

> Do they exist?

>

> Used to Parky - almost any pub in Coventry city

> centre in the late 70s early 80s. The- Alhambra,

> Silver Sword, City Tavern, Bier Keller, Penny

> Black, Three Tuns, White Bear, Yates's, etc...

Several pubs in Barrow-in-Furness where family and many friends live and I used to live. Pubs i've visited in Skegness, Portsmouth, Margate, Blackpool, East London, Manchester, Liverpool all fit the description. This is in the 90's and noughties too.

[Help-Ma-Boab]

Back o Hill Tavern in Stirling. Turn your empty pint glass upside down on the bar and out the back you went to fight big Tam Begley.

[Mick Mac]

Ha ha HMB. I remember the Bay Hotel Cushendun where Sunday night was fight night, outside in the car park, same people most weeks.

[Help-Ma-Boab]

I was never involved but the whole turn the pint tumbler upside down was the sign you wanted to fight the best man in the pub. I never let my pint out my sight the rare occasion I was in there. Some "wag" would no doubt turn it upside down and big Tam would stride out the back!

Back on topic. The Gowlett although not SE22 is for me my favourite boozer. Only been in Castle a handful of times but enjoyed my pint in there.

[????]

We are as well missing a whole set of sub-culture pubs from the past that have (nearly) died out

- Copper Pubs - normally near a nick, lock ins and extended licensing no questions asked

drug pubs - the only reason you went in was to buy drugs and anyone who wasn't a local was there for that. always a painful ritual of "i'll have a bottle of Pils" wait 5 mins whilst the locals decided if you were 'old bill' or not then if you passed whosever turn it was would say "looking fir anything lads?"

Pubs that took bets - a hangover from when it was illegal but my grandad was always placing bets in his local

Old school gay pubs - no banging house or smell of poppers just a lot of blokes, some with cravats

Irish pubs - no hassle if you behaved, great atmosphere...er, 'collection' for 'charity' near closing time

etc, etc

[Help-Ma-Boab]

Postie Pubs - open at 5am for the shift working postmen. Market Porter at Borough Market an early opener for the market workers.

[Seabag]

The oddest pub I went to was "The Brazen Head" aka The Granite, in Glasgow

You sat down at the tables and the bar man would come to you, no standing up or glasses above mouth high, or something like that

The band played behind a chicken wire fence

I remember the barman pulling out a big see through bag, full of e's and wraps etc. "Any orders?"

A few hours later plenty of pulling Picasso faces, then 2 suited guys no younger than 70, set to at each other

Best 4 days on my own in a City ever

[Otta]

Still a market pub or two left in Woolwich I think (a lot has changed there since I worked there up to 2009).

[Millhaven]

???? Wrote:

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> We are as well missing a whole set of sub-culture

> pubs from the past that have (nearly) died out

>

> - Copper Pubs - normally near a nick, lock ins and

> extended licensing no questions asked

> drug pubs - the only reason you went in was to buy

> drugs and anyone who wasn't a local was there for

> that. always a painful ritual of "i'll have a

> bottle of Pils" wait 5 mins whilst the locals

> decided if you were 'old bill' or not then if you

> passed whosever turn it was would say "looking fir

> anything lads?"

> Pubs that took bets - a hangover from when it was

> illegal but my grandad was always placing bets in

> his local

> Old school gay pubs - no banging house or smell of

> poppers just a lot of blokes, some with cravats

> Irish pubs - no hassle if you behaved, great

> atmosphere...er, 'collection' for 'charity' near

> closing time

> etc, etc

This is what you are missing folks.

[Jah Lush]

I remember the pubs of Smithfield Market after an all nighter at the Heavenly Social e'd off me tits. But even before then working with an old fella on The Sporting Life who'd lie to his wife saying he had to be in the office early and head straight to one of those boozers at six in the morning for half a dozen large gins before he started his shift on the Greyhound desk. By 10.30 he'd be banging on the door of "The Stab" to let him in for more. RIP Albert "Let me in yer bastards" Bright.

[Louisa]

I'm old enough to remember when London pubs, particularly around Peckham/Bermondsey and into the East End (basically anywhere within spitting distance of the docks or a market) were split down the middle between market stall traders in one bar and dock workers in the other. How times have changed, nearly all gone now. One favourite of mine when I was much younger was the 'Hand and Marigold' just off East Lane market down the Walworth Road.

Louisa.

[Parkdrive]

Seabag Wrote:

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> Parkdrive Wrote:

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> > Interesting views, my wifes best friend grew up

> > and lived for decades in Dunstans road until

> she

> > moved to the Gloucestershire/Herefordshire

> borders

> > about 20 years ago, she's been back a few times

> > and thinks East Dulwich is now a dirty, over

> > priced shit hole. So there you go

>

> Ah, bless her. Not an unusual reaction when

> someone sees a house in the estate agents window,

> just like the one they lived in, but now with a

> massively inflated price tag. It hurts somewhat

>

> Still, there you go

Why would it hurt? She made a fortune and banked a few hundred grand into the process, and enjoys a far better quality of life. No, she's laughing at the deluded fools living in ED who think thye've done really well. Now that would hurt you I'm sure.

[El Pibe]

The White Bear is still a bets pub isn't it? Or at least it was last I went there for a GAA game, so probably ticks the irish box too, didn't see any collections, but then I guess they shouldn't still be fund raising should they?

[Jeremy]

Parkdrive - so you're telling us there are parts of the country that are cheaper than London? With larger houses, fewer chicken shops, and less rubbish lying around? And people living there who are happy?

[Earl Aelfheah]

Wow, this is a shocking revelation. I always wondered what existed in those fabled lands beyond the M25.

[*Bob*]

One day I too dream up selling up, buying that melon farm on the Isle of Wight and laughing at all the idiots still in London.

[red devil]

I thought the general consensus was that ED was a bit of a shithole 20+ years ago compared to how it looks now.

Louisa, prey tell...

[Jeremy]

Please no...

[red devil]

Spoilsport :)

[DulwichFox]

red devil Wrote:

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> I thought the general consensus was that ED was a

> bit of a shithole 20+ years ago compared to how it

> looks now.

> Louisa, prey tell...

Well at least 20+ years ago it was OUR shithole.

And not that of the a***holes that frequent the bars and pubs along Lordship Lane at the weekend.

East Dulwich Tourists. Where do they come from.?

20+ years ago there was still a real sense of community.

That has gone and I feel the likes of which will never be seen in these parts again.

DulwichFox

[red devil]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> Well at least 20+ years ago it was OUR shithole.

Obviously not everyone felt the same Foxy, some headed for the hills with their few hundred grand fortune...

[titch juicy]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> red devil Wrote:

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> > I thought the general consensus was that ED was

> a

> > bit of a shithole 20+ years ago compared to how

> it

> > looks now.

> > Louisa, prey tell...

>

> Well at least 20+ years ago it was OUR shithole.

> And not that of the a***holes that frequent the

> bars and pubs along Lordship Lane at the weekend.

> East Dulwich Tourists. Where do they come from.?

>

>

> 20+ years ago there was still a real sense of

> community.

> That has gone and I feel the likes of which will

> never be seen in these parts again.

>

> DulwichFox

I think UKIP and the BNP feel the same about Great Britain.