East Dulwich Population 2014

[ChiaraSofia]

Hiya EDers,

Does anyone know the population of ED/D?

Wiki says in 1901 it was around 10k. Any recent figures?

Thanks!

[dbboy]

Have a look at Office of National Statistics

[Townleygreen]

according to the 2011 census, the "usual resident population" of ED ward was 12,321

[LondonMix]

That's not much id an increase in more than 100 years!

[treehugger]

There are many wards in ED/SE22

[Penguin68]

In 1901 family sizes tended to be much larger (and in addition there would have been resident servants), and many houses would have had (in the poorer areas) multiple families living in them. Most middle-class families in 1901 would have had at least one resident domestic servant, upper-middle class houses perhaps two or three. The number of new houses in the area (outwith individual houses which replaced bomb-damaged houses) are mainly the big blocks of flats, which themselves replaced exisiting tenements, which would tend to be highly occuied.

Considering that by 1901 ED was already pretty built-up, 20% population growth doesn't seem unreasonable. Compare those resident in the City of London in 1901 and now, where there has been (I believe) a population collapse.

Edited to say - I hadn't noticed that the original figures may not both have been 'ward' based - if 'Dulwich' is being compared with ED ward then, whilst my general comments probably still hold, the growth rate I suggest is rubbish.

[Jeremy]

I don't think many houses round here would be big enough for the middle class family with resident servant scenario. Maybe the detatched houses on Elsie Rd, or the three storey houses e.g. Rodwell Rd?

[????]

The overall population of London is up about 30% in that period, so a 20% increase is respectable in an area which was largely built by then. My suspicion is that it's rocketed/recovered recently too as 15 years ago - none of them flats in Goose Green, flats/houses at the Top of Henslowe Road, the Wood yard, all those by Sainsbury's and opposite the station existed there's a fair few properties in that lot alone...plus several other new developments

[LondonMix]

Agree regarding staff but people definitely used to have more kids and live more densely even a generation ago.

[nxjen]

???? Wrote:

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> The overall population of London is up about 30%

> in that period, so a 20% increase is respectable

> in an area which was largely built by then. My

> suspicion is that it's rocketed/recovered recently

> too as 15 years ago - none of them flats in Goose

> Green, flats/houses at the Top of Henslowe Road,

> the Wood yard, all those by Sainsbury's and

> opposite the station existed there's a fair few

> properties in that lot alone...plus several other

> new developments

I don't think though the estates on Dog Kennel Hill and Champion Hill or the Lordship Lane Estate had been built in 1901 which must have increased the population of ED significantly. The population could possibly have been higher in the intervening years than the figure of just over 12,000 quoted in the 2011 census. To balance this, as P68 says, families were larger and some houses had multi family occupancy whereas today there are many dwellings occupied by just single people or couples.

[kford]

According to the Census, in 1901 there were three families - eight people - crammed into our Victorian three-bed terrace in ED. No bathroom, and an outside loo. God knows how they managed.

[aquarius moon]

kford Wrote:

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> According to the Census, in 1901 there were three

> families - eight people - crammed into our

> Victorian three-bed terrace in ED. No bathroom,

> and an outside loo. God knows how they managed.

Luckily there is an inside loo & bathroom these days but couples with 2 kids are expected to manage in a one bedroom flat so times haven't really changed at all.

[DulwichFox]

When I was born I lived in a old house in East Surrey Grove Peckham

with

my Mum & Dad

my Nan & Granddad

My Uncle

a Lodger.

Mice.

There was no Electricity. Just gas light.

No Bathroom. Just a single cold tap.

An outside toilet.

Lucky B******s we were.

That's how things were in the 50's

DulwichFox

[LondonMix]

My father-in-law grew up in what he considered a large 4 bed Victorian house in North London in the 50s and 60s. Out of curiosity, we looked it up on Rightmove, under sold houses and its now configured as a two bed.

When his family lived there, the 2nd downstairs reception room was his parents' room. The dining room was in the narrow k!tchen and the only bathroom was downstairs behind the k!tchen. There was a loo (no sink) upstairs along with 3 bedrooms. His 3 sisters shared the biggest room by choice and he had his own room which meant there was a spare bedroom.

The current owners knocked through the two reception rooms into a through lounge. The k!tchen was extended into the old bathroom. They moved the bathroom upstairs and lost the back bedroom as a result, so now it?s a 2 bed house.

He couldn?t believe it!

[Gray]

Don't forget the herd had two good cullings in 1914-18 and 39-45, as well.

[nashoi]

London's population grew from the 19th century peaking in 1939. It then declined to a low in the 90's but has increased since, particularly in the last 10 years, but still not quite back to its 39 peak. People are still leaving in large numbers, but are being replaced by large amounts of immigration mostly from within the EU. Although inner London has seen a huge rise in percentage terms in the last 20 years it's still below the 1861 census figures.

[Earl Aelfheah]

... but this forum has around 50,000 users. So who are all these EDF interlopers!?

Townleygreen Wrote:

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> according to the 2011 census, the "usual resident

> population" of ED ward was 12,321

[StraferJack]

12000 of those are unique ID's belonging to snorky and bigbadwolf in multiple, often dormant, guises

[????]

another 10k or so are deserters and splitters ^^^^

and another 10k are envious residents of Nunhead/Camberwell

[Earl Aelfheah]

???? Wrote:

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> and another 10k are envious residents of

> Nunhead/Camberwell

...Or North London.

[ChiaraSofia]

Townleygreen Wrote:

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> according to the 2011 census, the "usual resident

> population" of ED ward was 12,321

Thanks!