Attempted break in on Upland Road

[Kollyflower]

Yesterday me and my fella returned from the pub just before 10pm (Sunday quiz night at the Herne?s?good!) to find a lad on a bike doing a WHEELIE out of our driveway. He?d got the padlock off the shed somehow but fortunately hadn?t taken anything as looks like we disturbed him.

We called the police who turned up immediately and says they have a massive issue on their hands at the moment with house/shed/car burglary in the area and East Dulwich on a whole.

Just a heads up really?be vigilant people!

[pinecone]

what we need is a police station...

[TheCat]

pinecone Wrote:

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> what we need is a police station...

Surely they could put a police station at the site of that derelict old building on the corner of whateley road and lordship lane?

[Lynne]

Or even one on the corner of Upland/crystal Palace

Of course, no-one really minds that the nearest is peckham, in the event of a crisis

[jimbo1964]

Ridiculous situation.

[StraferJack]

yes - spend a fortune on opening a station and then we can have thread s like this again

http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?5,139204,139679#msg-139679

Having a station doesn't have any impact on burglaries - you do know that, right?

Having more police generally might help solve more crimes - but equally will cost a lot of money too (even if cuts are applied elsewhere)

But a lot of well off people are moving to the area, easily spotted and therefore an obvious target - tehse things tend to happen in waves

But having a police station nearby won't actually help

[jimbo1964]

Maybe not but it does feel better to have a local police presence. Extra vigilance from the general population might be helpful. These swines do seem quite brazen.

[StraferJack]

"These swines do seem quite brazen."

they ALWAYS have!

and you want to spend millions on a police station to "feel better"?

[jimbo1964]

Yes please.

[Too Good To Be True]

Perhaps the police should hire two reformed convicts to wander up and down ED streets spotting potential burglary targets. Once spotted, potential victim gets a warning letter informing them of a weakness in their property.

Potential victim has 90 days to remedy potential weakness.

Three warning letters in a three-year period and the police inform your contents insurer.

[Kollyflower]

^^ Seriously?

Victim blaming?

My shed was in a garden, with a security light and was securely (as secure as possible) padlocked. I'd be interested to see if Keith the (ex)thief might have some extra tips though.

[nxjen]

Too Good To Be True Wrote:

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> Perhaps the police should hire two reformed

> convicts to wander up and down ED streets spotting

> potential burglary targets. Once spotted,

> potential victim gets a warning letter informing

> them of a weakness in their property.

>

> Potential victim has 90 days to remedy potential

> weakness.

>

> Three warning letters in a three-year period and

> the police inform your contents insurer.

Bonkers

[Too Good To Be True]

Not victim blaming.

It's just that the best way to reduce crime is prevention.

The reason car crime has fallen is because more people have better car security.

If someone (and I'm not saying it's the OP) leaves a laptop in full view and it gets stolen, it will attract more burglars to the area.

Bobbies on the beat and more police stations are unlikely to reduce burglaries.

[JimH]

A wheelie you say!? A WHEELIE?!? The audacity...

[Kollyflower]

Yes. He was like James Dean in joggers

[worldwiser]

Forgive me if I seem naive but I've never understood how people end up being burgled. If you have a proper door (ie one not made of either wood or plastic) and proper windows and you actually lock them, you will never be burgled. Unless they know you've got the Mona Lisa on your wall, they'll just go elsewhere. It really is the simplest thing in the world.

[*Bob*]

No, you are being naive. Not to mention tactless.

And - with doors made neither from plastic nor wood - possibly a bit weird.

[LondonMix]

You are being incredibly na?ve worldwiser. People with ?proper windows? including security locks and alarms have been burgled very recently in the area.

[Pickle]

I wish it was that simple, but it's not. Our neighbours, with new sash windows, locks and an alarm, were burgled in broad daylight a couple of years ago. If people want to get in, they'll get in.

[worldwiser]

Alarms are a waste of time, no one pays the slightest attention to them. I have external doors set in a concrete frame made predominantly from steel with a multipoint locking system. To a passer by they look like ordinary doors and cost not much more. Someone referred to the drop in car crime by pointing to the evolution of car security. Why on earth don't people extend that logic to their homes? I'll live with being insensitive if people wake up to how totally open most homes are to even amateur intruders.

[Ron70]

There is a way to prevent yourself becoming a target and I've said it on this forum before "Primary Crime Prevention". It's not complicated, you make your property less attractive to a burglar than the property next door or down the street by means of physical deterrents. Be that Alarms / padlocks / CCTV etc.

The crime will not stop because of this, however it will be displaced elsewhere. This might seem slightly selfish but if everyone in this area were to take a few simple precautions, criminals would soon pick on an area which is easier to target.

Ron70

[StraferJack]

"This might seem slightly selfish"

I hope there is a but coming?

"but"

phew!

"if everyone in this area were to take a few simple precautions, criminals would soon pick on an area which is easier to target. "

Hmmmmmm

[jimbo1964]

'Someone referred to the drop in car crime by pointing to the evolution of car security'.

Well some friends of mine just had their new BMW nicked. So I guess the miscreants will find a way.

[Kollyflower]

Oh dear! I do wish people would READ the posts before commenting.

RON70: *** There is a way to prevent yourself becoming a target and I've said it on this forum before "Primary Crime Prevention". It's not complicated, you make your property less attractive to a burglar than the property next door or down the street by means of physical deterrents. Be that Alarms / padlocks / CCTV etc. ***

As mentioned a couple of times, the shed is overlooked directly by my front window, in my garden with a security light and was padlocked (with a decent padlock) but I was still targeted.

How do you suggest I could have prevented that? Never leave the house? Sell all my belongings and live in a house without valuables?

[*Bob*]

worldwiser Wrote:

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> Alarms are a waste of time, no one pays the

> slightest attention to them. I have external doors

> set in a concrete frame made predominantly from

> steel with a multipoint locking system. To a

> passer by they look like ordinary doors and cost

> not much more. Someone referred to the drop in car

> crime by pointing to the evolution of car

> security. Why on earth don't people extend that

> logic to their homes? I'll live with being

> insensitive if people wake up to how totally open

> most homes are to even amateur intruders.

So what you're saying is that all I need to do is simply replace the silly wooden front door (and frame) and of course the other three sets of external double doors - with steel multipoint locking ones which are instead set into concrete frames. And possibly replace the 15 sash windows (and frames) with an equally secure concrete and steel system - and I'll be laughing?

Why oh why didn't someone tell me this before?