Attempted break in on Upland Road

[StraferJack]

I can't help but feel that if I DID break into worldwiser's gaff, just as I was feeling pleased with myself I would hear a low rumble and then see a huge boulder coming down the stairs

[Kollyflower]

Hahaha. Kevin Macallister is that you????

[JohnL]

Some comments are way to close to

"if girls wear short skirts...."

You can choose to do what you want ... but don't ask others

who choose to assess their own risk and may never ever be a

victim of crime due to their own risk management.

[*Bob*]

Fear not, Kolly. With a few simple precautions, this sort of crime won't ever happen to you again.

Simply replace your traditional shed with one made from steel and concrete, with steel doors and a multipoint locking system.

[Kollyflower]

Is anyone selling a dragon?

[Ron70]

Kollyflower Wrote:

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> Oh dear! I do wish people would READ the posts

> before commenting.

>

> RON70: *** There is a way to prevent yourself

> becoming a target and I've said it on this forum

> before "Primary Crime Prevention". It's not

> complicated, you make your property less

> attractive to a burglar than the property next

> door or down the street by means of physical

> deterrents. Be that Alarms / padlocks / CCTV etc.

> ***

>

> As mentioned a couple of times, the shed is

> overlooked directly by my front window, in my

> garden with a security light and was padlocked

> (with a decent padlock) but I was still targeted.

>

>

> How do you suggest I could have prevented that?

> Never leave the house? Sell all my belongings and

> live in a house without valuables?

I wasn't directing my comment at you specifically, otherwise i'd have quoted your post as I'm doing now". However, now you've brought it up, there's no point having a security light which no one reacts to, regardless of whether or not it's overlooked by your window, unless you do react every time it's activated?(I'm guessing you don't) it wouldn't take a master criminal long to test whether anyone reacts to PIR lights being activated!

You just need to apply a modicum of common sense. Without seeing your property I'd suggest:

- Getting a PIR light which activates an alarm within the house and if it's constantly activated by cats / foxes etc. get an expert in who can adjust the sensitivity to allow for this happening, thus avoiding false alarms and sleepless nights.

- Alarm the shed, in these days of wireless connectivity it's not massively difficult or expensive. Then mark the shed in some way indicating that it is alarmed (most alarms will come with some sort of visual deterrent stickers)

I'm pretty sure you could have figured this out for yourself had you not decided that the best approach was to try and patronise me on a forum where I was trying to help.

Cheers,

Ron70

[Kollyflower]

I absolutely do look out of my window if the security light comes on, if someone is in my garden I want to know who and why.

The point is that I was not home when the kid broke in, therefore an alarm wouldn't have made a jot of difference. I just wanted to make people of ED aware that the police said there is quite the crimewave at the moment. I do not believe that this is due to people of ED suddenly becoming lax on home security, that certainly wasn't true in this case anyway;but rather that gangs target areas for a while and then move on. But I'm guessing the police could tell you more about the facts.

Cheers

[LondonMix]

This is all a bit blame the victim.

We have an alarm (that texts us if its been triggered when we are out), we have had the police tag all our valuables and a sticker indicating as much in in front of our house, we have window locks and special security glass on our bifold doors in the garden, we don't have high hedges and have a sturdy front door and locks.

I think most people take lots of precautions but to some extent getting broken into is a question of bad luck.

[Mustard]

No point in having an alarm unless it is hooked up to the police station, and you need to pay for that service.

[LondonMix]

It's hooked up to my phone and I can immediately call the police. Much cheaper!

[Mustard]

Just because you call the police doesn't mean they will get round there quickly. I have one which was set off accidentally by a child when I was in the house and they were round in about 2 minutes.

[Ron70]

Kollyflower Wrote:

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> I absolutely do look out of my window if the

> security light comes on, if someone is in my

> garden I want to know who and why.

>

> The point is that I was not home when the kid

> broke in, therefore an alarm wouldn't have made a

> jot of difference. I just wanted to make people of

> ED aware that the police said there is quite the

> crimewave at the moment. I do not believe that

> this is due to people of ED suddenly becoming lax

> on home security, that certainly wasn't true in

> this case anyway;but rather that gangs target

> areas for a while and then move on. But I'm

> guessing the police could tell you more about the

> facts.

>

> Cheers

Unless you can guarantee that you react every time the light is activated, how do you know that you -

"absolutely do look out of my window if the security light comes on"

You're losing sight of plausibility.

An alarm would absolutely have made a difference, especially if it was monitored!

I have no doubt that you're correct, in that ED is experiencing a crime wave at the moment, however, for the reasons already stated, it's preventable. It's just dependant on how interested or motivated you are by your personal security.

Ron70

[Ron70]

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[eddad]

I was just at the East Dulwich council meeting this evening where crime statistics were discussed. Overall crime is down in the area but (surprise!) burglary is indeed up in the ED ward this year. I asked if there were anything specific about the burglaries that could help prevention and was told that patterns suggest it is driven by gangs pursuing specific kinds of targets over short periods. So let's all be good neighbours and keep an eye out for each other.

P.S. There is a petition out there to ask Boris to get numbers of police in Southwark back up to 2010 levels so if you're concerned you might want to sign it. Interested parties can find out more once they've posted the minutes here: http://www.southwark.gov.uk/dulwich

P.P.S. While I'm sure any advice on home security is welcome, it should go without saying that accusing someone who's just been burglarised of lacking common sense (i.e. being stupid) is insensitive at best (unless they literally left the front door wide open).

[poppet27]

Thanks for sharing the petition.

Right, back to work..

[Wir sind]

Ron70 Wrote:

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> Kollyflower Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > I absolutely do look out of my window if the

> > security light comes on, if someone is in my

> > garden I want to know who and why.

> >

> > The point is that I was not home when the kid

> > broke in, therefore an alarm wouldn't have made

> a

> > jot of difference. I just wanted to make people

> of

> > ED aware that the police said there is quite

> the

> > crimewave at the moment. I do not believe that

> > this is due to people of ED suddenly becoming

> lax

> > on home security, that certainly wasn't true in

> > this case anyway;but rather that gangs target

> > areas for a while and then move on. But I'm

> > guessing the police could tell you more about

> the

> > facts.

> >

> > Cheers

>

> Unless you can guarantee that you react every time

> the light is activated, how do you know that you -

>

> "absolutely do look out of my window if the

> security light comes on"

> You're losing sight of plausibility.

>

> An alarm would absolutely have made a difference,

> especially if it was monitored!

>

> I have no doubt that you're correct, in that ED is

> experiencing a crime wave at the moment, however,

> for the reasons already stated, it's preventable.

> It's just dependant on how interested or motivated

> you are by your personal security.

>

> Ron70

Ron, you previously mentioned a shop you owned? what is the name? Im in need of some security measures as someone was in my front garden yesterday looking around.

[Ron70]

Wir sind Wrote:

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> Ron70 Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Kollyflower Wrote:

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> > -----

> > > I absolutely do look out of my window if the

> > > security light comes on, if someone is in my

> > > garden I want to know who and why.

> > >

> > > The point is that I was not home when the kid

> > > broke in, therefore an alarm wouldn't have

> made

> > a

> > > jot of difference. I just wanted to make

> people

> > of

> > > ED aware that the police said there is quite

> > the

> > > crimewave at the moment. I do not believe

> that

> > > this is due to people of ED suddenly becoming

> > lax

> > > on home security, that certainly wasn't true

> in

> > > this case anyway;but rather that gangs target

> > > areas for a while and then move on. But I'm

> > > guessing the police could tell you more about

> > the

> > > facts.

> > >

> > > Cheers

> >

> > Unless you can guarantee that you react every

> time

> > the light is activated, how do you know that you

> -

> >

> > "absolutely do look out of my window if the

> > security light comes on"

> > You're losing sight of plausibility.

> >

> > An alarm would absolutely have made a

> difference,

> > especially if it was monitored!

> >

> > I have no doubt that you're correct, in that ED

> is

> > experiencing a crime wave at the moment,

> however,

> > for the reasons already stated, it's

> preventable.

> > It's just dependant on how interested or

> motivated

> > you are by your personal security.

> >

> > Ron70

>

> Ron, you previously mentioned a shop you owned?

> what is the name? Im in need of some security

> measures as someone was in my front garden

> yesterday looking around.

Sorry, Wir Sind, I don't have a shop, I run a security and risk management business. Ufortunately, we don't really deal with small scale property security. There are plenty of companies out there who do and I'm sure a quick google search would be a good starting point.

Ron70

[Wir sind]

Thanks Ron70 - Good advice to ED residents to google for an alternative "expert" As a Risk Management professional living and possibly working locally, I suggest you asses the risk of posting patronising and rude messages on a local forum on the subject of your supposed expertise area.

[Ron70]

Wir sind Wrote:

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> Thanks Ron70 - Good advice to ED residents to

> google for an alternative "expert" As a Risk

> Management professional living and possibly

> working locally, I suggest you asses the risk of

> posting patronising and rude messages on a local

> forum on the subject of your supposed expertise

> area.

- What are you talking about? At no point have I been patronising or rude! I was responding to your post which I thought was genuine, clearly not.

- You're accusing me of posting rude messages? You're a hypocrite and a bit of a dick.

Ron70

[pinecone]

i want to know more about this WHEELIE

[simon.pearson]

What did he look like?