McDonalds French fries... What's in them... ?

[DulwichFox]

What are McDonald's French Fries made from..

1. Potatoes

2. Canpola Oil

3. Soybean Oil

4. Hydrogenated Soybean Oil

5. Natural Beef Blavour

6. Hydrolyzed Wheat

7. Hydrolyzed Milk

8. Citric Acid

9. Dimethylpolysiloxane

10. Dextrose

11. Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate

12. Salt

13. Canola Oil

14. Corn Oil

15. Soybean Oil

16. Hydrogenated Soybean Oil

17. TBHQ (Tertiary ButylHydroQuinone)

18. Citric Acid

19. Dimethylpolysiloxane

Why is that ??

https://uk.screen.yahoo.com/nasty-food-facts-and-stories/mcdonald-really-put-fries-101022942.html

God knows what must go into their burgers..

DulwichFox

[Robert Poste's Child]

I read a similar article recently.

To be fair to McDonalds, the fries are made in the normal way from potato, which surprised me as I assumed they were chemical sludge extruded into a chip shape. All the other 'ingredients' are actually sprayed on as a coating before the initial frying or they're in the oil mixture.

To be honest I had a higher opinion of the finished product after I'd read the article, but maybe that's just me.

[Jeremy]

Anything in there which particularly bothers you Fox, or just the sheer number of ingredients?

Bear in mind that some items are duplicated there... and I don't see anything wrong with using a blend of oils to fry in. Not saying it's good food... but it is what it is.

[miga]

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[DulwichFox]

Jeremy Wrote:

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> Anything in there which particularly bothers you

> Fox, or just the sheer number of ingredients?

>

> Bear in mind that some items are duplicated

> there... and I don't see anything wrong with using

> a blend of oils to fry in. Not saying it's good

> food... but it is what it is.

They are not actually duplicated as such.. If you see the video. they are used in various

Stages of production. Some before they have left the factory and again during the cooking process.

DulwichFox

[ernesto]

http://www.mcdonalds.co.uk/ukhome/product_nutrition.sides.44.mcdonalds-fries.html

not british ones, just septic ones have 14 ingerdients apparently

[Jeremy]

Can't really watch the video right now. But from reading the list, it wouldn't put me off.

Basically, we all know it's junk food. You shouldn't eat it too often, but once in a while isn't going to hurt you. And if you DO eat this stuff on a regular basis... you probably already have bigger problems to worry about (salt, cholesterol, obesity, etc) than a handful of additives.

[Loz]

McDonalds chips > Burger King chips. Chips and brekkie - the only products where McD is better than BK.

What IS the crap BK spray on their chips? They used to have the best, now they are far and away the worst.

[Earl Aelfheah]

I was surprised that all their meat comes from Britain and conforms to the 'Freedom Food' standards.

[Seabag]

You have read Eric Schloser 'Fast Food Nation' haven't you

There's lots more to be "shocked about" in there

And in their defence McDonalds along with other try to maintain product continuity. From what I remember the sugar/starch content in a spud changes during the year, so when fried so does the colour, so part of what 'they' do is for cosmetic reasons.

As for the burger, it's all beef. But from the tip of the tail to the lips is all considered as "Beef" . Much of it 'rendered'

Make of that what you will, it's been going on for years. Schloser's book outlines all this very well

Old news really & you might want to look into what goes into one of those minced lamb 'elepant leg' Kebab things, the ones that go round and round and round each day and night, turned off turned on, reheated again and again. You know the ones, like they sell at the beloved Kebab & Wine

How do you think 'they' make cheap food that stands up to treatment like that?

Maybe you could ask them in Turkish

*They being the fast food industry

[DulwichFox]

Jeremy Wrote:

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> Anything in there which particularly bothers you

> Fox, or just the sheer number of ingredients?

>

Canola Oil is pretty nasty..

No idea what TBHQ is but a quick Google to find out.

Consuming high doses (between 1 and 4 grams) of TBHQ can cause nausea, delirium, collapse, tinnitus (ringing in the ears), and vomiting. There are also suggestions that it may lead to hyperactivity in children as well as asthma, rhinitis and dermatitis. It may also further aggravate ADHD symptoms and cause restlessness. Long term, high doses of TBHQ in laboratory animals have shown a tendency for them to develop cancerous precursors in their stomachs, as well as cause DNA damage to them. It is also suggested that it may be responsible for affecting estrogen levels in women.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/031318_TBHQ_food_preservatives.html#ixzz3Pw4Gg2iY

Does not sound like something I would want to eat

DulwichFox

[Robert Poste's Child]

I'm wary of the 'in large doses' argument. It's usually a red herring as anything taken in excessive amount can have dangerous side-effects, including water and oxygen.

That said, I don't eat McDonalds because it's (to use a phrase drummed into me years ago by an ex-boyfriend) processed muck.

We live in a capitalist society and the most political thing we do each day is choose how we spend our money. If you feel strongly that something isn't right, don't buy it.

[ernesto]

natural news is barking though. like proper mad stuff

[Seabag]

Shock horror "Lamb Doner" doesn't usually contain Lamb

http://www.independent.ie/life/food-drink/food-news/no-horse-but-its-not-lamb-either-whats-really-in-your-donner-kebab-30457005.html

Admitedly this is an Irish Indi article, so things MIGHT be completely different over here

But I doubt it

Please Sherlock Fox , could you investigate what the local business Kebab shops use, specially seeing as Mc Donald's are not local to ED

[DulwichFox]

Seabag Wrote:

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> Shock horror "Lamb Doner" doesn't usually contain

> Lamb

>

> http://www.independent.ie/life/food-drink/food-new

> s/no-horse-but-its-not-lamb-either-whats-really-in

> -your-donner-kebab-30457005.html

>

> Admitedly this is an Irish Indi article, so things

> MIGHT be completely different over here

>

> But I doubt it

>

> Please Sherlock Fox , could you investigate what

> the local business Kebab shops use, specially

> seeing as Mc Donald's are not local to ED

My thread is in the Lounge an therefore be about anything.

Yilmaz used to make their own Lamb D?ner and the preparation could be seen.

They were mainly made from Lamb Shoulder.

The Lamb D?ner in Hisar Mangal are hand made..

Kebab & Wine use brought in D?ner. But they also have a Chicken D?ner.

Do not know about K?z..

The term D?ner comes from the Turkish Verb D?nmek, To Turn.. so a turning kebab.

DulwichFoz

[david_carnell]

It's the milkshake ingredients that are more hilariously obscure. More interesting though, imo, in the Fast Food Nation book was the production of the chip itself. They are produced in such mind-boggling quantities that the production line methods are fascinating. This gives a brief overisght but misses some details

http://www.businessinsider.com/how-mcdonalds-makes-its-fries-2012-10?op=1&IR=T

For instance the "peeling" process involves some sort of hot water bath and tumble dryer apparatus if I remember correctly.

But please don't post from "Natural News" as if it's a sensible source of information.

[Louisa]

McDonalds is what it is. Processed food. But I'd rather eat this stuff which confirms to all sorts of regulations than something processed from a back street take away that has a food hygiene rating of 0.

Louisa.

[El Pibe]

"Admitedly this is an Irish Indi article, so things MIGHT be completely different over here"

aaah, good ol' Abrakebabra. It's pretty terrible really but a great name.

I miss stab and wine and their lamb shish.

[Earl Aelfheah]

Louisa Wrote:

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> McDonalds is what it is. Processed food. But I'd

> rather eat this stuff which confirms to all sorts

> of regulations than something processed from a

> back street take away that has a food hygiene

> rating of 0.

>

> Louisa.

Yep, exactly this. With the ubiquity of somewhere like MacDonalds comes a high level of scrutiny. They probably have higher standards than a lot of places. Still processed junk though.

[miga]

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[Seabag]

But is it Lamb in the "Lamb" dona at Kebab B&W and the other local vendors?

Or as the articles seem to point out, something else completely

I'd be interested to know, as we wouldn't want anyone local hoodwinked into parting with ?6, even if they've been drinking all day or not

Maybe it should be re named as a "any old meat doner"

[miga]

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[JohnL]

Cleggy thinks we're eating Rat - and has no idea what go large means.

I honestly thing a shish at kebab & wine is Okay

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/nick-clegg-im-concerned-about-rat-meat-in-kebabs-9283544.html

[Jeremy]

I have no problem with a shish at K&W, or anywhere else locally. But doner... yuck..

[Loz]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> Jeremy Wrote:

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> > Anything in there which particularly bothers you

> > Fox, or just the sheer number of ingredients?

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> Canola Oil is pretty nasty..

No it's not - it's actually pretty healthy (as far as oils go). It's huge in Australia - one of the main cooking oils there. It's low in saturated fat and contains both omega-6 and omega-3. What's not to like?

It does seem to be the subject of one of those fake email scares, though. http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/canola.asp