McDonalds French fries... What's in them... ?

[Asset]

I've read that site too but a after a quick look at Wiki I maintain the differences are negligible and that as canola is bred from rapeseed, when referring to cooking oil canola is the name given to the same stuff that we call rape.

I suspect if they were different we would be able to buy 'canola oil' in the UK.

[Robert Poste's Child]

Isn't canola effectively a genetically modified form of rapeseed?

[Ladygooner]

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/foodanddrink/foodnews/the-last-mcdonalds-burger-sold-in-iceland-still-looks-like-new-six-years-on/ar-AA8BcJw

Six years on and burger and chips look like new!

[Loz]

Robert Poste's Child Wrote:

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> Isn't canola effectively a genetically modified form of rapeseed?

No, it was formed by selective breeding.

[DulwichFox]

Robert Poste's Child Wrote:

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> Isn't canola effectively a genetically modified

> form of rapeseed?

Yes...

[Loz]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> > Isn't canola effectively a genetically modified form of rapeseed?

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> Yes...

No...!

From your own post, Foxy: "In the 1970s canola was created through traditional plant cross-breeding"]

[KidKruger]

Pray tell - is Asian Takeaway open evenings ?

[Jeremy]

Yes it is.

[Rolo Tomasi]

Open until 9pm weekdays, 10pm on Saturdays.

Got dinner from there last night. 2 wraps, 2 samosas, lentil curry and a rice. ?12.

[DulwichFox]

Loz Wrote:

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> From your own post, Foxy: "In the 1970s canola was

> created through traditional plant cross-breeding"]

Not that simple.... Rape seed oil needs to be modified before cross breeding

Canola oil is developed from the rapeseed plant, which is part of the mustard family of plants. These oils have long been used for industrial purposes (in candles, lipsticks, soaps, inks, lubricants, and biofuels). It?s an industrial oil, not a food.

Rapeseed oil is the source behind mustard gas, and on its own it causes emphysema, respiratory distress, anemia, constipation, irritability, and blindness. But through the beauty of genetic modification, we now sell it as an edible oil.

The claim is that canola is safe to use because through modification it is no longer rapeseed but ?canola.? Except? canola is just genetically modified rapeseed.

http://vanessaruns.com/2011/02/08/gmos-and-why-you-should-never-use-canola-oil/

DulwichFox

[nashoi]

Giles Coren in an elephant's leg factory.

[Robert Poste's Child]

So - one's a cardiac-inducing lardy health hazard and the other's doner kebab meat?

[Loz]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> Loz Wrote:

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> Not that simple.... Rape seed oil needs to be modified before cross breeding

That sentence doesn't actually make any sense whatsoever, Foxy.

> The claim is that canola is safe to use because through modification it is no longer rapeseed but

> ?canola.? Except? canola is just genetically modified rapeseed.

The development of Canola not involve any genetic modification for the very simple and obvious reason that Canola was created in the 1970s, but genetic modification technology for plants didn't exist until the 1980s. It is impossible for Canola to be based on GM technology!

> http://vanessaruns.com/2011/02/08/gmos-and-why-you-should-never-use-canola-oil/

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> DulwichFox

Foxy, you really need to find some credible sites for your information. The 'information' on that site is pretty much completely based on the email hoax Snopes identified.

[DIX]

READ this thread once through but can't find the fact that McDonald's have very recently had to admit that there are fifteen (or was it seventeen?) ingredients in their 'fries' AS WELL AS potatoes and (one) cooking oil. McDonalds have set about playing this down by mounting a youth-friendly video campaign in which a boy-ish trustworthy-looking actor pretends to be candidly answering answering an innocent FAQ (on the viewers behalf!) by going through the list of 'fries' ingredients as though the company had disclosed them out of stupendous generosity. The video ends with the actor saying something like: 'So that's it! You keep firing the questions at me, and I'll keep digging-out the answers for you'. It's quite consummately done. The main script goes something like this, listing the ingredients in turn: 'Ultra-noxious-mineral-manipulate'? - that's just another name for flavouring! You want flavour in your fries, right; 'Chemicalicalised-mutation-inoganic-super-poxic'? Why, that's just an entirely natural something we need to keep your fries fresh! You want your McDonald's fries fresh don't you?. . . and so on. It cleverly diverts away from all fair and real concerns, like, for example, why on earth there are actually seventeen ingredients in what is probably - with the exception of a raw carrot - the world's simplest food; a food which I think we all take for granted as involving no more than chipped potatoes and oil.

Perhaps the number of chemicals involved is what we should have expected all along from this company. However what I was not prepared for - and, perhaps, not just because I am vegetarian - is that meat could be involved. But, yep, beef extract is one of the ingredients (That one's for flavour! We know you want your fries tasty!, or some such line). I don't often eat (eat?) at McDonalds, but I don't avoid fast-food joints on principle. Before their introduction of veggie-burgers I just had chips; suddenly veggie-burger and chips seem a viable - if not satisfying - option. But we now see the deception that's been going on over all the years: one food line is specifically sold as not containing meat, while another, that (most unexpectedly) does contain meat is not actually suitable for vegetarians! Overlook my personal dietary whims, but consider those who have religious constrictions on what they eat being duped by this chain, with as I think we all know by now chance of apology or comeback.

[Fresh edit] APOLOGIES, FOLk - I was cross-directed to (what I now discover I failed to notice was just the third page of) this thread by search, and therefore hadn't read the earlier postings when I read it. Sorry for the repetitions

[ernesto]

i am opposed to all chemicals in food

[StraferJack]

"READ this thread once through but can't find the fact that McDonald's have very recently had to admit that there are fifteen (or was it seventeen?) ingredients in their 'fries' "

what not even the very first post???

[Jeremy]

DIX Wrote:

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> But, yep, beef extract is one of the ingredients

Not in the UK they don't. "McDonald's UK French Fries are officially accredited by the Vegetarian Society."

> consider those who have religious constrictions on what they eat

Why? Why is religious belief more important than people who have actually arrived at their morals through independent thought?

[ernesto]

ban all chemicals NOW!!!!!!

[Robert Poste's Child]

Not 0 or H20 though. Or C7H8N4O2 (my favourite).

[Loz]

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> i am opposed to all chemicals in food

Everything in food are chemicals. Including food.

[miga]

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[DulwichFox]

My original post was just to highlight that 17-19 were used to produce French Fries..

I was just astonished.

The thing that amazes me is from some of the replies here,indicates that people do not seem to care

or show any level of concern for what's in their food, whilst at the same time ranting and raving

in other threads about restaurants that are selling Organic produce and their willingness to pay through

the nose for it..

DulwichFox

[Otta]

I used to quite often have a chicken legend, but am really off maccas of late. Except the breakfast, I do like a McMuffin and treat myself probably 2 - 4 times a month. Used to be way more, but I am feeling fat and trying to cut down on crap food.

[Robert Poste's Child]

Maybe they're not the same people buying the organic produce and going to McDonalds? Different people like different things.

[Otta]

The KFC Hotdog looks absolutely vile. And I like KFC (gravy rocks).

Used to like the Maccas banana milkshakes a lot as a kid, but suffered from a lot of migraines as a teenager, and had particularly bad one on a day when I'd had a milkshake, and haven't been able to touch them in the 20 odd years since.

Best urban myth was that KFC were farming freak chickens with 8 legs or whatever, and that they'd changed the name to KFC because they were not allowed to use the word Chicken.

All utter bollocks, but good fun.