Menu for Dulwich Fox....

[MrBen]

Foxy - you think ED is expensive. Check the shrimp pasta out on this....

http://balthazarny.com/menus/dinner.pdf

Anyone been btw?

[Jeremy]

That is the NY menu though..

London menu here :

http://balthazarlondon.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Balthazar_Dinner_Menu_2FEBRUARY2015_-border.pdf

[david_carnell]

Thats about ?20.

It's just off Times Sq I think - and one of NYC's signature restaurants.

And shrimp aren't shrimp - they'll be langoustine/gambas/mahoosivemotherfuckers so not a horrendous price.

If you want to play that game may I present restaurant Paul Bocuse:

http://www.bocuse.fr/upload/File/auberge/carte-menu-paul-bocuse/201409-Carte-Menus-uk.pdf

That's a chicken for 225Euros! Why bother when Iceland do two for a fiver, eh? Eh?! EH?!

[Jeremy]

Yep, prices are steep but not totally ridiculous.

DC's link is much more impressive. 30 Euro for fruit salad. 65 Euro for a pigeon. One bloody pigeon... damn...

Always wanted to try Bresse chicken though. Apparently the place to go for affordable poulet de Bresse is a service station on the A39.

[DulwichFox]

Read the small print at the foot of the Menu..

Eating raw or undercooked fish, shellfish, eggs or meat increases the risk of foodborne illnesses

Says it all .

DulwichFox

[david_carnell]

Not really. That's the USA - home of pointless litigation.

I'll happily take my chances with steak tartare, oysters, sashimi etc.

[JohnL]

Dollars ??

[Jeremy]

I think we've already figured that out, John!

Anyone who won't eat sushi, sashimi, ceviche, oysters, rare meat, etc because of food poisoning paranoia is barking mad IMO (except if you're pregnant, maybe).

Had some very nice raw red prawns at Rex and Mariano over the weekend...

[david_carnell]

The Actress refused to serve me a medium-rare burger the other night.

Tells you all you need to know about the quality of their meat and confidence in freshness.

[Jah Lush]

Jeremy Wrote:

> Anyone who won't eat sushi, sashimi, ceviche,

> oysters, rare meat, etc because of food poisoning

> paranoia is barking mad IMO (except if you're

> pregnant, maybe).

I'm seriously allergic to oysters. I like 'em but they don't like me.

[DuncanW]

I've been to the NYC one.

I don't remember it being expensive for a destination restaurant...

I do remember it being very nice tho

[Jeremy]

david_carnell Wrote:

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> The Actress refused to serve me a medium-rare burger the other night.

The burgers at Actress/Victoria/etc are crap anyway.

[Help-Ma-Boab]

Meatliquor for burgers. Singapore branch though.

[david_carnell]

I know I know....but I'd had pizza a couple of days before, was en famile so wasn't trekking to town for a burger. I thought things might have trickled down and improved. No such luck.

[Jeremy]

Help-Ma-Boab Wrote:

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> Meatliquor for burgers. Singapore branch though.

I've never been to Meatliquor... I don't queue for food. I have, however, eaten at MeatMarket and I liked it.

[aquarius moon]

david_carnell Wrote:

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> The Actress refused to serve me a medium-rare

> burger the other night.

I don't think they are allowed to serve burgers med-rare for health/safety reasons. At least that was the case a few years ago somewhere else. Burgers were always cooked well-done regardless.

[david_carnell]

aquarius moon Wrote:

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> david_carnell Wrote:

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> > The Actress refused to serve me a medium-rare

> > burger the other night.

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> I don't think they are allowed to serve burgers

> med-rare for health/safety reasons. At least that

> was the case a few years ago somewhere else.

> Burgers were always cooked well-done regardless.

I've never believed this. It just seems a simple get-out for restaurants who are risk-averse.

How do some places get away with it and others claim they can't? Seems like the usual H&S scaremongering without any facts to back it up.

[DulwichFox]

The Bishop used to sell them Medium Rare.. even almost raw..

In the early days they were made from Aged Sirloin Beef in a Toasted Sourdough bun.

With fresh salad, Chilli relish and Stokes Tomato Ketchup..

Last time I was in there The Burgers were awful.

Not that I actually eat many burgers my self.

DulwichFox

[Help-Ma-Boab]

Meatliquor good burgers, and rare. See also Honest Burgers. The Montpellier does rare burgers and a 2 for 1 deal on Mondays.

Jeremy, Saturday at around 3pm. No queuing involved. It's my go to place once John Lewis beats me....

Anyhow, trying to get back on topic. Had a steak up The Shard last week (Shangri La) pricey but nice and tasted better as Brother in law paid as a rare treat...Was a huge lump of meat.

[aquarius moon]

I guess it depends how strict they are about adhering to the rules.

I used to work somewhere & the chefs were just not allowed to serve the burgers anything less than well-done & they did as they were told for fear of the consequences.

[Help-Ma-Boab]

Yes, I've been places where they have said they can't do rare and cook them well done only. Can't recall where that was now. I've just had a burger at work as there is a farmers market every Tuesday. Didn't ask for it rare but it was when I bit into it. That's how I like them but others maybe not so much.

[Jah Lush]

Hmmm....all this talk of meat. I'm a gonna go out an get me a cow and eat that muthafucker

[Otta]

I've said it before I'll say it again, I justnever "got" the whole burger thing.

But 235? for a chicken?!?! Jesus Christ!

[david_carnell]

I've read a book about Bocuse. He's a pompous twit. But his cooking revolutionised the world. No exaggeration.

That chicken is expensive to begin with. It's a Bresse. They retail at about 30Euros so double it for restaurant prices. You get the whole thing.

It's then stuffed with truffles. That's probably another 100Euros.

Then it's put inside a pigs bladder which is filled with wine, port and brandy. Another 100Euros of ingredients.

It's disgusting and obscene to pay that much but I'm told the smell when it's brought to the table and the bladder is cut open to reveal the chicken makes God weep with joy.

http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/06/14/ba/57/bresse-chicken-cooked.jpg

[Jeremy]

Maybe you could try making that image a tad smaller, david!

I'm not really a huge truffle fan... certainly don't think any dish needs more than a subtle shaving of it to get more than enough of the flavour. It can be really overpowering and pungent.