I have never...

[Atila Reincarnate]

thought I was mortal until my dad died

[red devil]

Tony.London Suburbs Wrote:

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> david_carnell Wrote:

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> Seen true colours - I'm red/green colour blind

>

> All the cool people are dc.

>

> Can you detect readily because I can't always.

I'm colour blind too, but it's only a problem in patterns when colours are mixed up, e.g. fabrics and the Arsenal away kit...;-) Surely dc you can tell the difference between simple red and green coloured objects?..it's passed on to boys from their mothers, boys can't pass it on to their offspring, however if she has a daughter, the daughter isn't colour blind, instead she carries the 'defect' gene and her sons will be colour blind, and so it goes on...in our family my mum has 3 sons, so we are all colour blind, but it will die out with us as their is no daughter to pass it on...

[Atila Reincarnate]

red devil Wrote:

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> Tony.London Suburbs Wrote:

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> > david_carnell Wrote:

> >

> > Seen true colours - I'm red/green colour blind

> >

> > All the cool people are dc.

> >

> > Can you detect readily because I can't always.

>

> I'm colour blind too, but it's only a problem in

> patterns when colours are mixed up, e.g. fabrics

> and the Arsenal away kit...;-) Surely dc you can

> tell the difference between simple red and green

> coloured objects?..it's passed on to boys from

> their mothers, boys can't pass it on to their

> offspring, however if she has a daughter, the

> daughter isn't colour blind, instead she carries

> the 'defect' gene and her sons will be colour

> blind, and so it goes on...in our family my mum

> has 3 sons, so we are all colour blind, but it

> will die out with us as their is no daughter to

> pass it on...

What a load of Ballacks

[red devil]

...not sure how Dyslexia is passed on though...

[Atila Reincarnate]

red devil Wrote:

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> ...not sure how Dyslexia is passed on though...

Probably in the same manner as described previously

[charliecharlie]

http://eatourbrains.com/EoB/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/troll.jpg

arh, how cute!

[Tony.London Suburbs]

....taken a backlog of work home and put it on a bonfire and asked for "duplicates" to buy me a couple of weeks grace from xxxxxx Insurance Group, several times. It weren't me, Guvnor.....and they called me "Bonfire xxxxxx"...:-SB)

....stirred the lukewarm Coffee of my Boss with anything other than a teaspoon when he was being a particularly xxxx one day many moons ago...it did seem to have extra cream in though, that time, for some reason....

....put on a dying voice to get a few days off work, put the phone down and rang up the lads for a round of golf/pub session etc.

....told my Boss that I couldn't get a "Skytrain" back from The USA so was "forced" to stay there for a 6th week....

....called the Deputy Managing Director a xxxx in front of The Managing Director and Accountant on the 28/5/81.

....had an extra portion of Eggs and Baked Beans when I realised a work colleague "Stevie Boy" was my Co-Pilot, when we drove in a Company Van to Hull that only had one window working, which was on my side.:) .he turned quite green by the time we got to East Anglia....

Sweet retribution for the time he had a Curry and barricaded me into the Firms only cubicle loo, the following morning, how we laughed...well he did anyway:)...

Sometimes a Guy gets an undeserved reputation.

NOT GUILTY!

[LegalEagle-ish]

been to Australia.

[david_carnell]

red devil Wrote:

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> Tony.London Suburbs Wrote:

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> > david_carnell Wrote:

> >

> > Seen true colours - I'm red/green colour blind

> >

> > All the cool people are dc.

> >

> > Can you detect readily because I can't always.

>

> I'm colour blind too, but it's only a problem in

> patterns when colours are mixed up, e.g. fabrics

> and the Arsenal away kit...;-) Surely dc you can

> tell the difference between simple red and green

> coloured objects?..it's passed on to boys from

> their mothers, boys can't pass it on to their

> offspring, however if she has a daughter, the

> daughter isn't colour blind, instead she carries

> the 'defect' gene and her sons will be colour

> blind, and so it goes on...in our family my mum

> has 3 sons, so we are all colour blind, but it

> will die out with us as their is no daughter to

> pass it on...

Quite so reddevil. My red/green vision is ok in telling objects apart. Grass is green, blood is red etc but in patterns, close together or in bad light it's awful. Strawberry picking is a no no unless I want unripe fruit (and that's if I can see them to begin with) and playing snooker in a dingy hall is a bit of an adventure. And yes, my Mum is to blame.

In general it doesn't really affect me that much. It limits your career choices a little though. I can't be a police officer, a pilot and most understandably, bomb disposal! "Cut the red wire, Carnell", "Errr...."

[Tony.London Suburbs]

Posted by: Tony.London Suburbs Yesterday, 11:11PM

david_carnell Wrote:

Seen true colours - I'm red/green colour blind.

"Can you detect Brown readily because I can't always."

Is "Brown" a problem for you dc as it is for me, sometimes?

[david_carnell]

Yes, occassionally brown too in the wrong circumstance but not very often.

[Tony.London Suburbs]

Its a shame that I can drive as well as anyone for nearly 30 years withoutany problems worth mentioning and yet would not be able to be a Police Response Driver, due to Red/Green colour blindness that has never affected my driving, in the least.

Snooker balls could be a problem, occassionally, as I had to keep an eye on the position of the Brown Ball, at all times, as you'll understand.

I always remember Nasim Ali saying to me in 1974 at The NCB that I was a "little monkee" when I told her, genuinely (!), that "it was great that we have changed the ribbon on the adding machine as, not only, do we still have (=) and (-) on the roll but The Debits are now in Black and The Credits are in Red!", they, apparently, were always like that on the previous ribbon and I had not realised all the months that I had been there as the ribbon was fading..

She thought I was joking when I was being entirely serious, as no-one realised that I was colour blind.

[Mick Mac]

Tony - Sorry to hear about the colourblindness - just for assistance watching the rugby on Saturday, the Irish team will be the team with the ball.

[red devil]

:))...my brother failed the RAF medical to become a helicoptor pilot, that's when we found out about it...there must be varying degrees of colour blindness though, I'm also red/green, but had no problem strawberry picking when I was a kid...I once had a Prince of Wales check jacket, which unbeknown to me had a single red contrast stitch detail, I can see it close up but fron a distance, zilch. I was looking at the clothes in ED shop recently and saw a pair of shorts also in the POW check, this time with a blue contrast, clear as anything!...

[Brendan]

Mate of mine always wanted to be a fireman and found out at the medical that he couldn?t because he was red/green colour blind. I felt really bad for him at the time but I can see their reasoning.

?Fire! Fire!?

?Oh don?t worry about it it?s just a bit of grass.?

[Tony.London Suburbs]

I'll wager there's no-one on EDF who has ever met a Colour Blind Woman but, apparently, its around 12% of Men.

Out of those Colour Blind Guys, 98% are "Red/Green" and 2% "Yellow/Blue"..

[Tony.London Suburbs]

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> Tony - Sorry to hear about the colourblindness -

> just for assistance watching the rugby on

> Saturday, the Irish team will be the team with the

> ball.

lol...I might remind of these comments after the match Mick!..then again, I might not....

[annaj]

Just to skip back a bit, because Atilia's one word repsonse seemed a bit mean, red devil was right about inheritance of colour blindness.

The defect that causes colour blindness is carried on the X chromosome. Men have one X chromosome, inherited from their mother, and one Y chromosome, from their father. Women have two X chromosomes, one from each parent. Colour blindness is less common, although not impossible, in women because they have two X chromosomes. If a woman has one defective X chromosome she won't be colour blind, because she has a second normal X chromosome, but could pass the defective onto any sons that she has. In other words, she will be a carrier. If a man is colour blind he can't pass it on to his sons, because he will only pass his Y chromosome on to his sons, but his daughters will be carriers, because he only has one X chromosome to pass on and it's defective.

So, if red devil and his brothers don't have any daughters, then he is quite correct in saying the trait will stop with them.

Not "ballacks" at all really.

[Tony.London Suburbs]

Good points annaj.

Must admit though in my 54 years I've never met a colour blind Woman yet.

[Moos]

annaj Wrote:

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> Just to skip back a bit, because Atilia's one word

> repsonse seemed a bit mean, red devil was right

> about inheritance of colour blindness.

>

> The defect that causes colour blindness is carried

> on the X chromosome. Men have one X chromosome,

> inherited from their mother, and one Y chromosome,

> from their father. Women have two X chromosomes,

> one from each parent. Colour blindness is less

> common, although not impossible, in women because

> they have two X chromosomes. If a woman has one

> defective X chromosome she won't be colour blind,

> because she has a second normal X chromosome, but

> could pass the defective onto any sons that she

> has. In other words, she will be a carrier. If a

> man is colour blind he can't pass it on to his

> sons, because he will only pass his Y chromosome

> on to his sons, but his daughters will be

> carriers, because he only has one X chromosome to

> pass on and it's defective.

> So, if red devil and his brothers don't have any

> daughters, then he is quite correct in saying the

> trait will stop with them.

> Not "ballacks" at all really.

Annaj, does that mean that if a woman has a colour-blind father and a 'carrier' mother, she still only has a 75% chance of being colour-blind? I can see why it's a rarity among women if that's the case.

To veer even further off topic, Mr. Moos and I are both left-handed having both inherited the gene from our respective paternal grandfathers, but the Moosling is right-handed. Granny thinks this is a good thing, but I was secretly hoping he'd be a lefty too.

[annaj]

Less than that, Moos. Her paternal X chromosome will be defective her maternal one has a 50% chance, so overall 50% chance of having two defective X chromosomes and being colour blind.

And that's why TLS has never met a colour blind woman.

[Moos]

Ah, I see - of course. Thanks!

[Tony.London Suburbs]

Moos Wrote:

.. but I was secretly hoping he'd be a lefty too.

Please in all thing Holy, NO!...there's far too many "lefties" on here already!

Glass of Bolinger, anyone?:))

[candj]

Husband and I are both left handed, but our daughter is right handed. I too wanted her to be left handed if only to avoid knocking our chopsticks together at a round table. So far our youngest is using their left hand, but we shall see.

And what's wrong with lefties TLS?

[Brendan]

I think he?s referring to namby pamby liberal ideas, a social conscience and the tendency to litter the local coffee shops with discarded copies of The Guardian.