best fish and chips?

[Amysdad]

For take-out, American-sized portions from Britannia floats my boat. Sea Cow is second-best, and eat-in is okay if you can cope with the grease and smell, yeu.

[20stonegnome]

Emilys in North x rd does the best cod , Britannia does the best chips, last time I went into the Sea Cow they had run out of cod and tried to persuade me to eat pollock on 'enviromental' grounds.........nice try guys!

[Huguenot]

Apparently Pollack is to be re-branded Colin by M&S (pronounced Co-lan) to up-diggedy-dawg perceptions.

BTW, if you do continue to eat cod, there won't be any left. We're doing to cod what we did to the dodo, because we're peckish and daft. Embarrassing isn't it?

[lenk]

The one on the left in Nunhead on Nunhead Lane just past 'The Restaurant' has never disappointed. MASSIVE portions too..

[Mick Mac]

Apparently Pollack is to be re-branded Colin by M&S (pronounced Co-lan) to up-diggedy-dawg perceptions.

Isn't Colin french for Hake and is not Hake a cod substitute already (but its not pollack) - its going to get very confusing - unless pollack and hake are the same thing....

[TheMonkeyboy]

Ollies in Herne Hill is the best by some distance in my opinion. For a cheaper option I also rate Ken's on Half Moon Lane.

MB

[Huguenot]

Apparently [and to reinforce your convictions that I'm a right anal bastard] I haven't got a clue, so I looked it up...

Gadiformes are an order of fish.

Gadidae are a family within Gadiformes that are collectively known as Hake. It includes both Pollack and Cod

Pollachius are a genus within Gadidae that are collectively known as Pollock

Within the Pollachius genus there are two species of Pollock: Pollachius pollachius and Pollachius virens. Apart from the latter occasionally being distinguished as a Coley nobody really seems to give much of a sh*t.

Gadus are also a genus within Gadidae that are collectively known as Cod.

Within the Gadus genus there are three species of Cod: Atlantic, Greenland and Pacific. Haddock is in fact young Cod.

Thus Cod and Pollack are both Hake.

So Cod and Pollack are both collective terms and are very closely related. Both are white fish, although Pollack has a stronger flavour. Brits associate Pollack with catfood, but it seems mainly out of being spoilt b@stards, because other nations consider it a delicacy.

[bigbadwolf]

Thanks for clearing that up Huguenot.

[*Bob*]

Can't we just eat all the Cod and then move on to the Pollack when it's all gone?

And even if all the Pollack goes, we'll be able to think of something. Soylent Green or something.

[bigbadwolf]

Or we could just eat Whale.

[pepsi]

The Flying Fish on Camberwell Church Street is absolutely the best place nearby, the batter's perfect and not too thick. It's also closer to ED than many of the places mentioned here (just opposite the bottom end of Camberwell Grove). They're also MUCH cheaper than some of the rather overpriced places around (think Lordship Lane and Herne Hill!)

[Huguenot]

*Bob*, that was a very clever joke. All the more so because I had to look it up to get it. It has levels.

However as a plankton, whilst undoubtedly fishy, Soylent Green doesn't have a taxonomic classification, so we couldn't presume to compare it with Cod or Pollack under such a scheme.

[SeanMacGabhann]

ok I didn't spell it right but pride makes me point out *Bob* didn't get there first

http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?5,133501,134097#msg-134097

[Sue]

On the radio yesterday (erm, I was in the car) there was a whole piece about Pollack being renamed because people are too embarrassed to ask for it. It wasn't even 1 April.

What a load of Pollacks.

[JetSetWilly]

pollack, colin, where does saithe fit into the equation.

[Brendan]

What type of fish do they get the fingers from? A world without fish fingers would be a world I would rather not inhabit.

[Huguenot]

Saithe's also Pollachius virens, same as Coley. Don't you 'no nuffin?. 'S'all Pollacks to me.

[Huguenot]

If it's not cod in fishfingers, then it's probably pollack, apparently.

Do you know 12 fishfingers costs the equivalent of 6 quid here?

Cap'n Birdseye would turn in his grave.

[Brendan]

Guy in a pub once told me that you can get all the nutrients you need to be healthy from a diet of fish fingers and pineapple.

[Jeremy]

In the cheapo ones, it's "minced assorted white fish".

[Lizziedjango]

Definitely the Sea Cow for outstanding quality, then second Sema's where you get loads of chips.

[20stonegnome]

Cod stocks are at a sustainable level in the North Sea and in plentiful and sustainable supply from the North Atlantic.

[Huguenot]

Brrrrrrrrrp!

From the ICES (The International Council for the Exploration of the Sea (ICES) coordinates and promotes marine research on oceanography, the marine environment, the marine ecosystem, and on living marine resources in the North Atlantic. ICES is a network of more than 1600 scientists from 200 institutes linked by an intergovernmental agreement to add value to national research efforts.)

The North Sea Cod Spawning BioMass is currently below the safe limit of 70,000 tones. In late 2008 it was estimated at 50,000 tonnes, and 43% of this stock is fished each year, well above sustainable levels.

Even at these levels, and if it all went to the UK, that only entitles each of us to 350 grammes each per year.

The reality is that supply covers most of northern europe, so we probably get less than a hundred grams each per year.

If you're eating more than that (i.e one helping), you're contributing to the end of cod. Well done.

I don't have an awful lot of time for anyone who claims to know better than 1,600 hundred scientists at 200 institutions funded by government (not the fishing industry) to tell the truth.

North Atlantic cod is basically over. Despite the closure of the Canadian East Coast fisheries (due to no product, not intervention), stocks have not recovered. We ate it all.

[Jeremy]

Arghhh... straying off topic... but...

Yes the consumer can be held partly to blame for the decline of cod stocks, after all, there are plenty of other tasty fish around. But surely retailers, wholesalers, fisheries, and the government have to take some responsibility too.

I am a cynical kind of person, and unfortunately I believe that you can never rely on the public doing "the right thing". Most of us need carrots and sticks to push us in the right direction.

[Huguenot]

Quite right, for ontopication purposes, I was merely hoping that the best fish and chip shop may include those that don't sell cod, or more to the point, sell the best alternatives!

Respec' to Sea Cow on that subject.