LJ23 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 keano77 Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Yes drives me mad too. The modern equivalent of> tramps keeping warm and reading newspapers in> libraries.Bravo. Another ignorant way to create stigma around homeless people. As someone who works frontline with homeless people in Southwark I know what a refuge and amazing resource the library is for homeless people. Not only to keep warm but to use the facilities to try and get themselves out of their situation by using the computer to look for accommodation and jobs. If that 'drives you mad' I feel pretty sorry for you pal. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/59392-laptop-squatters-especially-cafe-nero-in-lordship-lane/page/4/#findComment-853208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dulwichdarling Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 totally agree iancI think people seem to forget that there is a voice present in all of usIf you want to sit down with your caramel macchiato then ask a 'laptop squatter' to politely move there bag so you can sit as wellseems logicalI think it's highly unlikely these laptop squatters are surfing the East dulwich forum so seems pointless complaining about them on hereLet's just use the good old fashioned method of speechIt's worked for the last 2 million years Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/59392-laptop-squatters-especially-cafe-nero-in-lordship-lane/page/4/#findComment-853220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Related Article:- http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/9254698/Wi-fi-lingerers-in-coffee-shops-are-causing-territorial-disputes-academic-research-finds.htmlDulwichFox Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/59392-laptop-squatters-especially-cafe-nero-in-lordship-lane/page/4/#findComment-853242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Goose Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 From a technical aspect, the squatters could be controlled by a time limit on their browsing based on the MAC identity of their laptops. That the coffee shops choose not to do this is a different issue. Perhaps they reckon that if spaces are limited their offerings appear to be in demand and are sought after. And maybe those customers who came in for a sit down coffee might just opt for a take-away coffee. Either way they win.GG Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/59392-laptop-squatters-especially-cafe-nero-in-lordship-lane/page/4/#findComment-853508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Dulwichdarling Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> totally agree ianc> I think people seem to forget that there is a> voice present in all of us> If you want to sit down with your caramel> macchiato then ask a 'laptop squatter' to politely> move there bag so you can sit as well> seems logical> I think it's highly unlikely these laptop> squatters are surfing the East dulwich forum so> seems pointless complaining about them on here> Let's just use the good old fashioned method of> speech> It's worked for the last 2 million yearsI think Coffee shops are redesigning to some pointStarbucks has communal tables (the others might end up laptop free IMHO) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/59392-laptop-squatters-especially-cafe-nero-in-lordship-lane/page/4/#findComment-853729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dulwichdarling Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Umm okay....What is your point? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/59392-laptop-squatters-especially-cafe-nero-in-lordship-lane/page/4/#findComment-854432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Dulwichdarling Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Umm okay....> What is your point?In terms of table sharing - this country probably is one of the most awkwardcountries to do that - imagine the horror if someone sat with you when there are other empty tables. I've shared when places are full - but then if suddenly all the tables empty- do you stay or move - very British questions and in other countries peopledon't worry about them (maybe people younger than 40 don't here) :)Communal tables are becoming popular all over however - McDonalds has gone allcommunal I notice. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/59392-laptop-squatters-especially-cafe-nero-in-lordship-lane/page/4/#findComment-854480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beej Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 communal toilets are all the rage Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/59392-laptop-squatters-especially-cafe-nero-in-lordship-lane/page/4/#findComment-854525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dulwichdarling Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 so are boring comments Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/59392-laptop-squatters-especially-cafe-nero-in-lordship-lane/page/4/#findComment-854560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beej Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 nowt boring about a communal toilet mate Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/59392-laptop-squatters-especially-cafe-nero-in-lordship-lane/page/4/#findComment-855443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Countryside alliance is now boycotting Nero due to badger issuesMaybe a table extra spare then ? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/59392-laptop-squatters-especially-cafe-nero-in-lordship-lane/page/4/#findComment-855491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Do they even have Cafe Nero in the countryside? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/59392-laptop-squatters-especially-cafe-nero-in-lordship-lane/page/4/#findComment-855500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 I'm pretty sure they don't have laptops.Or jobs. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/59392-laptop-squatters-especially-cafe-nero-in-lordship-lane/page/4/#findComment-855501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquarius moon Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 They just want to kill things instead. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/59392-laptop-squatters-especially-cafe-nero-in-lordship-lane/page/4/#findComment-855507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 I know Otta was joking, but I find it hard to tell with you, AM Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/59392-laptop-squatters-especially-cafe-nero-in-lordship-lane/page/4/#findComment-855517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swit and bold Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Laptop squatters ha ha!! They drive me made sitting with their empty cups not making any eye contact with anyone, as they know they are taking libertiys Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/59392-laptop-squatters-especially-cafe-nero-in-lordship-lane/page/4/#findComment-855521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquarius moon Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Jeremy Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I know Otta was joking, but I find it hard to tell> with you, AMYou really thought I might be joking?No, I was talking about the Countryside Alliance. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/59392-laptop-squatters-especially-cafe-nero-in-lordship-lane/page/4/#findComment-855525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Sorry, thought you meant that all people in the countryside enjoyed killing stuff... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/59392-laptop-squatters-especially-cafe-nero-in-lordship-lane/page/4/#findComment-855573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 LJ23 Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> keano77 Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > Yes drives me mad too. The modern equivalent of> > tramps keeping warm and reading newspapers in> > libraries.> Bravo. Another ignorant way to create stigma> around homeless people. As someone who works> frontline with homeless people in Southwark I know> what a refuge and amazing resource the library is> for homeless people. Not only to keep warm but to> use the facilities to try and get themselves out> of their situation by using the computer to look> for accommodation and jobs. > > If that 'drives you mad' I feel pretty sorry for> you palGreat post. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/59392-laptop-squatters-especially-cafe-nero-in-lordship-lane/page/4/#findComment-855604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Presidente Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Cafe Nero sucks, which makes this entire thread irrelevant Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/59392-laptop-squatters-especially-cafe-nero-in-lordship-lane/page/4/#findComment-855878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boonkoh Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 As someone who has in the past been unemployed for a period of time as well as setting up my own business, coffee shops with free wifi were an essential part of getting me through both phases.You cannot imagine how depressing it is to sit at home, working by yourself, with just quiet. I found myself most productive when I had some white noise - if you think about most office environments, there is always white noise in the background and I guess I'd gotten used to that.Just getting out of the house also freed me up from distractions at home. In a coffee shop, all you can do is focus on your work (unless of course you bump into someone you know and then there goes the rest of the afternoon...)You might find it frustrating when you pop in once every fortnight for your coffee to find me "squatting", but the truth is I "squat" there multiple times a week, often when the place is empty like on a Tuesday morning, and I buy more coffee and food over a course of a month than you would going in every 2 weeks. That is why coffee shops offer free wifi - we might only order one cup every few hours, but we do it regularly over time.The solution is not to ban laptop squatters or take away the wifi - it is to have more coffee shops in the neighbourhood, so everyone can be satisfied. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/59392-laptop-squatters-especially-cafe-nero-in-lordship-lane/page/4/#findComment-856560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Using public Wi-Fi for business can be hazardous... There are serious security issues and other people could be stealing your data.. It's pretty easy for someone who wants to intercept your data in a man-in-the-middle attack to set up a network called "Free Wi-Fi" or any other variation that includes a nearby venue name, to make you think it's a legitimate source.If you are connecting via Windows, make sure to turn off file sharing and mark the Wi-Fi connection as a public network. You can find this option in the Control Panel > Network and Sharing Center > Change Advanced Sharing Settings. Under the Public heading, turn off the file sharing toggle. You may also want to turn on the Windows Firewall when connecting to a public network if it's not already activated. These settings are also found in Control Panel > Windows Firewall.Full article.. :- http://www.cnet.com/uk/how-to/tips-to-stay-safe-on-public-wi-fi/DulwichFox Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/59392-laptop-squatters-especially-cafe-nero-in-lordship-lane/page/4/#findComment-856726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Good advice, Foxy, especially marking public Wifi networks properly. And you should always have Windows Firewall on anyway, public network or otherwise.)Https generally foils MitM attacks, but there is more comprehensive solution: VPN. Mine costs USD40 a year and you are safe from prying eyes (assuming you trust your VPN provider). And you have the added advantage of being able to change countries to take advantage of things like US Netflix or back to the UK when you are overseas to pick up iPlayer. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/59392-laptop-squatters-especially-cafe-nero-in-lordship-lane/page/4/#findComment-856738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boonkoh Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I agree, always use a VPN when on a public network with your laptop. They can be quite cheap too, a few pounds a month. But you do have to choose carefully, as not all VPNs are trustworthy. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/59392-laptop-squatters-especially-cafe-nero-in-lordship-lane/page/4/#findComment-857315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RosieH Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 It's Caffe Nero, CAFFE - double FIf you're all going to bang on about it so much, can you at least get the name right. Sheesh.I rate the Gowlett for daytime working - plenty of room, nice pint and a pizza for lunch. Splendid. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/59392-laptop-squatters-especially-cafe-nero-in-lordship-lane/page/4/#findComment-858675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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