MrBen Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 The commonality with both angles Fox is that they both wholly negative approaches.As opposed to Jeremy's post above which is open minded and positive.A bit of realism is fine. But for the sane 90% on here, repetitive debate on the ills of gentrification is dull.Change the record. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/62020-foxtons-the-shit-hits-the-fan/page/2/#findComment-858917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBen Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I may have been generous with 90%. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/62020-foxtons-the-shit-hits-the-fan/page/2/#findComment-858920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louisa Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 MrBen from your logic we've had the gentrification debate, so let's brush it under the carpet and pretend it's not happening?Louisa. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/62020-foxtons-the-shit-hits-the-fan/page/2/#findComment-858924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBen Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I think we all realise that it is happening. We've then debated the subject ad nauseam in detail, from multiple angles and life perspectives.The question is how much more value can you wring out of it? Apart from just using it as blow in bait for your own amusement of course.Dig deep. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/62020-foxtons-the-shit-hits-the-fan/page/2/#findComment-858926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louisa Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 That's the thing, yes it does have some light hearted amusement attached to it, especially in its early stages. But when it's hitting home and great businesses are changing hands and more importantly being aimed at a different clientele, then it no longer is funny. Where do all the older generation who used this pub go from here if the new look pub is foodie aimed and you're not allowed to nurse a pint at the bar? It's all the little things like that which aren't about being negative, it's about being practical MrBen. I guess they'll have to just jump a cab to Nunhead now. Who cares eh? Louisa. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/62020-foxtons-the-shit-hits-the-fan/page/2/#findComment-858931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Bob* Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Louisa Wrote:------------------------------------------------------- ... and you're not allowed to nurse a pint at the bar? No wonder these places are so 'successful'.I can't think of a single reason why they'd need to change the business model. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/62020-foxtons-the-shit-hits-the-fan/page/2/#findComment-858934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I stood at the bar - pint in hand - at the Camberwell Arms for a couple of hours.Got the feeling they didn't like it :) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/62020-foxtons-the-shit-hits-the-fan/page/2/#findComment-858947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nxjen Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Louisa Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> MrBen from your logic we've had the gentrification> debate, so let's brush it under the carpet and> pretend it's not happening?> > Louisa.It's happened. Move on. The "older generation" have seen an enormous amount of change already in their lifetime and are more resilient than you appear to give them credit for. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/62020-foxtons-the-shit-hits-the-fan/page/2/#findComment-858949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Louisa Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> FFS why can't anything successful just be left> alone? This pub is one of the last proper boozers> in the area it wouldn't hurt to leave something be> would it? It currently does one of the best roast> dinners in the area anyway, No it doesn't, its roast dinners are rubbish.Cheap and a lot of it, but remind me of my school dinners in the early sixties, and believe me that is not a pleasant memory :(Friendly pub, but not somewhere I would willingly choose to go and eat. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/62020-foxtons-the-shit-hits-the-fan/page/2/#findComment-858955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louisa Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 That's the point Sue. It's a pub, not a restaurant. It's not trying to gain a Michelin star. Louisa. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/62020-foxtons-the-shit-hits-the-fan/page/2/#findComment-858957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Bob* Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Louisa Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> That's the point Sue. It's a pub, not a> restaurant. As in 'it's a phone, not a camera'etc Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/62020-foxtons-the-shit-hits-the-fan/page/2/#findComment-858963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Mr Ben .. Are you a member of the Flat Earth Society.. ?? Foxy. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/62020-foxtons-the-shit-hits-the-fan/page/2/#findComment-858972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBen Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Fox...Have you ever been loved? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/62020-foxtons-the-shit-hits-the-fan/page/2/#findComment-858979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louisa Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Peckham 2015. Only Fools and Hipsters. Del Boy is living on a yacht off the coast of Marbs after selling his ex council flat for 850k via Foxtons. Lovely jubbly. Louisa. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/62020-foxtons-the-shit-hits-the-fan/page/2/#findComment-858983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Sue Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Louisa Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > FFS why can't anything successful just be left> > alone? This pub is one of the last proper> boozers> > in the area it wouldn't hurt to leave something> be> > would it? It currently does one of the best> roast> > dinners in the area anyway, > > No it doesn't, its roast dinners are rubbish.> > Cheap and a lot of it, but remind me of my school> dinners in the early sixties, and believe me that> is not a pleasant memory :(> > Friendly pub, but not somewhere I would willingly> choose to go and eat.I don't remember having Roast dinners at my school. But then I did not go to school on a Sunday. People I know speak highly of the Sunday Roast at the White Horse. But they are very ordinary people like myself.. and a bit Old. You know. Pensioner types.. They'll eat anything you put in front of them. Foxy Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/62020-foxtons-the-shit-hits-the-fan/page/2/#findComment-858985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Louisa Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> MrBen from your logic we've had the gentrification> debate, so let's brush it under the carpet and> pretend it's not happening?> > Louisa.It's a reasonable debate to have (and not inappropriate in the context of this particular thread). I think where people have rightly got annoyed in the past, is when threads are repeatedly diverted off topic into a 'gentrification' rant. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/62020-foxtons-the-shit-hits-the-fan/page/2/#findComment-858991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louisa Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Well I don't think I've personally diverted any threads into a gentrification rant since my rising like a Phoenix from the ashes, following my spat with admin and the consequent lounging. If anything, as you say rah, a thread talking about Foxtons surely is the ideal place for discussing gentrification? I know the White Horse is a separate issue, and we don't know all the details about its takeover yet, but it certainly feels like it's going to be linked in with gentrification. Louisa. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/62020-foxtons-the-shit-hits-the-fan/page/2/#findComment-858996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 DulwichFox Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> like myself.. and a bit Old. You know. Pensioner> types.. They'll eat anything you put in front of them. Except pizza. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/62020-foxtons-the-shit-hits-the-fan/page/2/#findComment-858997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I'm basically with Louisa on this one. There are plenty of things happening in Peckham, and it's not like the White Horse is sitting empty like the CPT used to do all day. But the fact is the management are giving it up, so they are to blame for the fact it's gonna change. (I don't mean that in a nasty way)Would be nice if the new owners thought to themselves that there are now quite a few places around for the yoots, and perhaps they could cater for the older crowd. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/62020-foxtons-the-shit-hits-the-fan/page/2/#findComment-859015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Jeremy Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> DulwichFox Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > like myself.. and a bit Old. You know.> Pensioner> > types.. They'll eat anything you put in front of> them. > > Except pizza.No.. They will eat Pizza. Its only me that doesn't like Pizza.. There must be food you don't like. Don't eat... It's not being negative not to like something.. Foxy Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/62020-foxtons-the-shit-hits-the-fan/page/2/#findComment-859024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBen Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 > > DulwichFox Wrote:> No.. They will eat Pizza. Its only me that doesn't> like Pizza.. > There must be food you don't like. Don't eat... > > It's not being negative not to like something.. > > FoxyGo on ...tell us more. We're all dying to hear it. Literally. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/62020-foxtons-the-shit-hits-the-fan/page/2/#findComment-859029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Dog duck Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Here we go again... another pointless threadHave you ever started a thread.........no? Well start one then, that's pointed. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/62020-foxtons-the-shit-hits-the-fan/page/2/#findComment-859032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Re: The White Horse. Hogie has decided to leave and sell up after 33 years. He ran a fine old school boozer. His son is going to run another pub in the area and he'll be part of that. I like the pub, especially for Hank Dog's Easycome music nights on Wednesday. It's that club that I'm more concerned about as it will possibly have to move. Recently, I've enjoyed sets in there from people like Dave Mankind, The Petrels, Misty Miller and her brother Rufus, a couple of members of Fat White Family (Saul and Lias) and another local legend Flameproof Moth. So it's not all old farts in there. I'm hoping that the new owners can create a decent mix of old and new and keep everyone happy. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/62020-foxtons-the-shit-hits-the-fan/page/2/#findComment-859036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Jah Lush Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I'm hoping that the new owners can> create a decent mix of old and new and keep> everyone happy.Indeed! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/62020-foxtons-the-shit-hits-the-fan/page/2/#findComment-859048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Bob* Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 But why bother with all that "let's see" nonsense - when you can rubbish the place - whatever it's going to be - in advance? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/62020-foxtons-the-shit-hits-the-fan/page/2/#findComment-859050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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