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I often get frustrated with Louisa's 'blow in' comments too. However she definitely has a point on this one. I love food and wine but also like watching sport,playing pool and talking to other locals in a pub and I think we need a mix of all in the area rather than every pub appealing to the same demographic of people. The Prince Albert on Bellenden rd is a perfect example- great local pub to play some pool which has now transformed into a smaller version of the Victoria 5 doors down the rd.


I do think some pubs have done a better job in attracting new customers but still having a place at the bar for locals- ie: in the Gowlett and the Montpelier, Old Nuns Head and the EDT,(though apart from the EDT these are all independents, which possibly says something) I often see the regular old boys propping up the bar in their regular spots (albeit possibly not on a busy Fri or Sat night) but more and more all the pubs are blending in to one. Just glad I live in Nunhead and can get a good mix of everything.

LouiseC Wrote:

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> I often get frustrated with Louisa's 'blow in'

> comments too. However she definitely has a point

> on this one. I love food and wine but also like

> watching sport,playing pool and talking to other

> locals in a pub and I think we need a mix of all

> in the area rather than every pub appealing to the

> same demographic of people. The Prince Albert on

> Bellenden rd is a perfect example- great local pub

> to play some pool which has now transformed into a

> smaller version of the Victoria 5 doors down the

> rd.

>

> I do think some pubs have done a better job in

> attracting new customers but still having a place

> at the bar for locals- ie: in the Gowlett and the

> Montpelier, Old Nuns Head and the EDT,(though

> apart from the EDT these are all independents,

> which possibly says something) I often see the

> regular old boys propping up the bar in their

> regular spots (albeit possibly not on a busy Fri

> or Sat night) but more and more all the pubs are

> blending in to one. Just glad I live in Nunhead

> and can get a good mix of everything.



See, sense can be talked without just going "It's Louisa, not worth listening to".

I'm kind of 50/50 here.


I used to love the traditional pub. No food, all drinking, all dart playing. (I was good at both!)


But nowadays I really hate restaurants. They are either too expensive or un-relaxed. Waiters that jump to attention when you move a muscle, are waiting to pounce before you've had time to look at the menu and want to kick you out as soon as the last mouthful has gone.


Gastro pubs? You can sit where you like, order food when you like,........carry on drinking....................................no pressure..................leave when you like.


That's the difference.

The rot set in a long time ago. It is hard, i mean HARD, to make a profit/earn a living running a pub. It may have started with a deep fried seafood substitute masquerading as scampi and office workers liking to pretend to be ploughmen but the truth is that you can not make a decent living running a boozer without offering the salivating morons punters something to eat.


The problem is that the pub culture changed. The stay-at-home dads who think a pub should exist so they can exercise their once a month right to have a piss up have all but killed it and yet they're the moaning f*ckwits who bang on about pubs being community assets.


Drink in pubs.


Do so regularly.


Or shut the f*ck up.

I realise that Jezza but having not posted for a week or so and sensing a drift towards the whinge, the maudlin reflection and the abusive/dismissive criticism of late I thought I should make a constructive contribution.


Did i miss?


Never used to...


Not back in the old days... etc...etc

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