Ted Max Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 To avoid ruining the Epitaph thread, where Moos has started things off, I feel it's time to break out the nightshade, and snuggle Lethewards in a cosy blanket of melancholia. Who do you go to when nothing but a bit of metaphorical knee-hugging will do? Cricket playing, radical consumptive John Keats is often good out of the blocks. Here he is enjoying the uplifting sound of a nightingale in full song. O for a beaker full of the warm south, Full of the true, the blushful Hippocrene, With beaded bubbles winking at the brim, And purple-stain?d mouth; That I might drink, and leave the world unseen, And with thee fade away into the forest dim -Fade far away, dissolve, and quite forget What thou among the leaves hast never known,The weariness, the fever, and the fret Here, where men sit and hear each other groan;Where palsy shakes a few, sad, last gray hairs, Where youth grows pale, and spectre-thin, and dies; Where but to think is to be full of sorrow And leaden-eyed despairs, Where Beauty cannot keep her lustrous eyes, Or new Love pine at them beyond to-morrow.------------------------------------------------Darkling I listen; and, for many a time I have been half in love with easeful Death,Call'd him soft names in many a mus?d rhyme, To take into the air my quiet breath;Now more than ever seems it rich to die, To cease upon the midnight with no pain, While thou art pouring forth thy soul abroad In such an ecstasy! Still wouldst thou sing, and I have ears in vain -- To thy high requiem become a sod. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6367-to-cease-upon-the-midnight-with-no-pain/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Just because it's fookin poetry week...did Keats really play cricket? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6367-to-cease-upon-the-midnight-with-no-pain/#findComment-203924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Next it will be John Clare and darts Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6367-to-cease-upon-the-midnight-with-no-pain/#findComment-203926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Max Posted May 20, 2009 Author Share Posted May 20, 2009 It's always poetry week, ????.Keats wrote in a letter (to his brother, I think) that he'd got a black eye playing cricket on the Heath. This is good going considering they'd have been bowling underarm. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6367-to-cease-upon-the-midnight-with-no-pain/#findComment-203934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Max Posted May 20, 2009 Author Share Posted May 20, 2009 Here's Arnold who turns a calm evening night listening to the waves on Dover Beach into this happy ditty. Note another use of "darkling". You've got to hand it to these lads. ---------The Sea of FaithWas once, too, at the full, and round earth's shoreLay like the folds of a bright girdle furled.But now I only hearIts melancholy, long, withdrawing roar,Retreating, to the breathOf the night-wind, down the vast edges drearAnd naked shingles of the world.Ah, love, let us be trueTo one another! for the world, which seemsTo lie before us like a land of dreams,So various, so beautiful, so new,Hath really neither joy, nor love, nor light,Nor certitude, nor peace, nor help for pain;And we are here as on a darkling plainSwept with confused alarms of struggle and flight,Where ignorant armies clash by night. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6367-to-cease-upon-the-midnight-with-no-pain/#findComment-203936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Hey thanks, I'd forgotten how much I love poetry:-$ Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6367-to-cease-upon-the-midnight-with-no-pain/#findComment-203937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moos Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Thanks Ted, that was lovely. Here's some Yeats for you all, best accompanied by a splash of Scotch. The trees are in their autumn beauty,The woodland paths are dry,Under the October twilight the waterMirrors a still sky;Upon the brimming water among the stonesAre nine-and-fifty Swans.The nineteenth autumn has come upon meSince I first made my count;I saw, before I had well finished,All suddenly mountAnd scatter wheeling in great broken ringsUpon their clamorous wings.I have looked upon those brilliant creatures,And now my heart is sore.All's changed since I, hearing at twilight,The first time on this shore,The bell-beat of their wings above my head,Trod with a lighter tread.Unwearied still, lover by lover,They paddle in the coldCompanionable streams or climb the air;Their hearts have not grown old;Passion or conquest, wander where they will,Attend upon them still.But now they drift on the still water,Mysterious, beautiful;Among what rushes will they build,By what lake's edge or poolDelight men's eyes when I awake some dayTo find they have flown away? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6367-to-cease-upon-the-midnight-with-no-pain/#findComment-203939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Tennyson...on deathAll Things will DieClearly the blue river chimes in its flowing Under my eye;Warmly and broadly the south winds are blowing Over the sky.One after another the white clouds are fleeting;Every heart this May morning in joyance is beating Full merrily; Yet all things must die.The stream will cease to flow;The wind will cease to blow;The clouds will cease to fleet;The heart will cease to beat; For all things must die. All things must die.Spring will come never more. O, vanity!Death waits at the door.See! our friends are all forsakingThe wine and the merrymaking.We are call�d�we must go.Laid low, very low,In the dark we must lie.The merry glees are still;The voice of the birdShall no more be heard,Nor the wind on the hill. O, misery!Hark! death is callingWhile I speak to ye,The jaw is falling,The red cheek paling,The strong limbs failing;Ice with the warm blood mixing;The eyeballs fixing.Nine times goes the passing bell:Ye merry souls, farewell. The old earth Had a birth, As all men know, Long ago.And the old earth must die.So let the warm winds range,And the blue wave beat the shore;For even and mornYe will never seeThro� eternity.All things were born.Ye will come never more,For all things must die. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6367-to-cease-upon-the-midnight-with-no-pain/#findComment-203941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moos Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 My mother says she cries every time she sees Romeo and Juliet, and prays that this time, this time the priest will get through, the message will work, the lovers will be reunited.And how could you not cry knowing the end and listening to the young girl in love, unable to bear waiting for her man? Come, gentle night, come, loving, black-brow'd night, Give me my Romeo; and, when he shall die, Take him and cut him out in little stars, And he will make the face of heaven so fine That all the world will be in love with night And pay no worship to the garish sun. Act 3, Scene 2SCENE II. Capulet's orchard. Enter JULIET JULIET Gallop apace, you fiery-footed steeds, Towards Phoebus' lodging: such a wagoner As Phaethon would whip you to the west, And bring in cloudy night immediately. Spread thy close curtain, love-performing night, That runaway's eyes may wink and Romeo Leap to these arms, untalk'd of and unseen. Lovers can see to do their amorous rites By their own beauties; or, if love be blind, It best agrees with night. Come, civil night, Thou sober-suited matron, all in black, And learn me how to lose a winning match, Play'd for a pair of stainless maidenhoods: Hood my unmann'd blood, bating in my cheeks, With thy black mantle; till strange love, grown bold, Think true love acted simple modesty. Come, night; come, Romeo; come, thou day in night; For thou wilt lie upon the wings of night Whiter than new snow on a raven's back. Come, gentle night, come, loving, black-brow'd night, Give me my Romeo; and, when he shall die, Take him and cut him out in little stars, And he will make the face of heaven so fine That all the world will be in love with night And pay no worship to the garish sun. O, I have bought the mansion of a love, But not possess'd it, and, though I am sold, Not yet enjoy'd: so tedious is this day As is the night before some festival To an impatient child that hath new robes And may not wear them. O, here comes my nurse, And she brings news; and every tongue that speaks But Romeo's name speaks heavenly Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6367-to-cease-upon-the-midnight-with-no-pain/#findComment-203945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikecg Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 For me music and poetry are inseparable and I have chosen this piece to coincide with Quids Tennyson on death, This has to be one of the saddest pieces of music ever composed and it is said that Tchaikovsky committed suicide soon after because of his homosexuality, very tragic. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6367-to-cease-upon-the-midnight-with-no-pain/#findComment-203946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Max Posted May 20, 2009 Author Share Posted May 20, 2009 Nice choices all. Moos, do you remember the Jameson's campaign which contrasted Yeats with Burns, using the tagline "The smoother the Irish"? Glad to see you sticking to the Scotch, though.I feel the self-indulgent thrill once more. But I'm off for a kip. Or as Prospero might say:Our revels now are ended. These our actors,As I foretold you, were all spirits, andAre melted into air, into thin air:And like the baseless fabric of this vision,The cloud-capp'd tow'rs, the gorgeous palaces,The solemn temples, the great globe itself,Yea, all which it inherit, shall dissolve,And, like this insubstantial pageant faded,Leave not a rack behind. We are such stuffAs dreams are made on; and our little lifeIs rounded with a sleep. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6367-to-cease-upon-the-midnight-with-no-pain/#findComment-203947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moos Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 *smiles* Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6367-to-cease-upon-the-midnight-with-no-pain/#findComment-203948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
woofmarkthedog Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 More homo for Cg............no really some of my best are............. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6367-to-cease-upon-the-midnight-with-no-pain/#findComment-203950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Romeo & Juliet has some softening in its tragedy in the purity and innocence of their love?Why should a dog, a horse, a rat, have life,And thou no breath at all??Now that's awful, heartfelt, self inflicted pain at its unconsolable depth from Lear...nothing but bleakness left thereEdited cos i can't spell tragedy Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6367-to-cease-upon-the-midnight-with-no-pain/#findComment-203951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moos Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Of course he lost a child of his own. I've read that some people think this speech (from King John) was written soon after:Grief fills the room up of my absent child,Lies in his bed, walks up and down with me,Puts on his pretty looks, repeats his words,Remembers me of all his gracious parts,Stuffs out his vacant garments with his form.Then have I reason to be fond of grief.Oh dear, this is taking melancholy too far... I think I shall hie me to my quiet bed. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6367-to-cease-upon-the-midnight-with-no-pain/#findComment-203952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Max Posted May 20, 2009 Author Share Posted May 20, 2009 Good shout ???? and Moos. This is the thread for sweet, sweet sorrow.Eviscerating emotional rawness is that way ----->>>>>>>> Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6367-to-cease-upon-the-midnight-with-no-pain/#findComment-203953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brum Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Sorrow, captured forever in these few words by our Bill......here, here will I remainWith worms that are thy chambermaids: O!here will I set up my everlasting rest,And shake the yoke of inauspicious starsFrom this world-wearied flesh. Eyes, look your last!Arms, take your last embrace! and, lips, O youThe doors of breath, seal with a righteous kissA dateless bargain to engrossing death!Come, bitter conduct, come, unsavoury guide!Thou desperate pilot, now at once run onThe dashing rocks thy sea-sick weary bark! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6367-to-cease-upon-the-midnight-with-no-pain/#findComment-203960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Max Posted May 20, 2009 Author Share Posted May 20, 2009 Still here - I seem not to have ceased upon the midnight. In honour of Carol Ann Duffy's recent appointment. Includes a line you could die happy to have written. "Grade 1 piano scales console the lodger looking out across a Midlands town. Then dusk, and someone calls a child's name as though they named their loss." That's the stuff we're after.PrayerSome days, although we cannot pray, a prayerutters itself. So, a woman will lifther head from the sieve of her hands and stareat the minims sung by a tree, a sudden gift.Some nights, although we are faithless, the truthenters our hearts, that small familiar pain;then a man will stand stock-still, hearing his youthin the distant Latin chanting of a train.Pray for us now. Grade 1 piano scalesconsole the lodger looking out acrossa Midlands town. Then dusk, and someone callsa child's name as though they named their loss.Darkness outside. Inside, the radio's prayer -Rockall. Malin. Dogger. Finisterre. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6367-to-cease-upon-the-midnight-with-no-pain/#findComment-203961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony.London Suburbs Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 John Otway:Look out babyLook out PetHere's the kidWho's gonna get the BluesWhen you go awayI'm on fireCause I'm in loveWith a girl who's not the girl she wasWhen I was out with herI saw you in the garden minuteYou looked so debonairBeware of the flowersBecause I'm sure they're gonna get youYeah! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6367-to-cease-upon-the-midnight-with-no-pain/#findComment-203984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Max Posted May 26, 2009 Author Share Posted May 26, 2009 Anyone up for some more?Long Distance II, by Tony Harrison.Though my mother was already two years deadDad kept her slippers warming by the gas,put hot water bottles her side of the bedand still went to renew her transport pass.You couldn't just drop in. You had to phone.He'd put you off an hour to give him timeto clear away her things and look aloneas though his still raw love were such a crime.He couldn't risk my blight of disbeliefthough sure that very soon he'd hear her keyscrape in the rusted lock and end his grief.He knew she'd just popped out to get the tea.I believe life ends with death, and that is all.You haven't both gone shopping; just the same,in my new black leather phone book there's your nameand the disconnected number I still call. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6367-to-cease-upon-the-midnight-with-no-pain/#findComment-205716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_carnell Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 GravyRaymond CarverNo other word will do. For that's what it was.Gravy.Gravy, these past ten years.Alive, sober, working, loving, andbeing loved by a good woman. Eleven yearsago he was told he had six months to liveat the rate he was going. And he was goingnowhere but down. So he changed his wayssomehow. He quit drinking! And the rest?After that it was all gravy, every minuteof it, up to and including when he was told about,well, some things that were breaking down andbuilding up inside his head. "Don't weep for me,"he said to his friends. "I'm a lucky man.I've had ten years longer than I or anyoneexpected. Pure Gravy. And don't forget it." Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6367-to-cease-upon-the-midnight-with-no-pain/#findComment-205720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Oh for fucks sake Ted now I?m depressed. Exquisitely so but depressed nonetheless. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6367-to-cease-upon-the-midnight-with-no-pain/#findComment-205724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Max Posted May 26, 2009 Author Share Posted May 26, 2009 Oh dear, Brendan. Yet David offers a smudge of light on this dark palette. (Thanks, David) Late in his life, and after the death of his first wife (whom he had long since excluded when she was alive - she slept alone in the attic and was not allowed in his study), Thomas Hardy turned in a series of poems about her, and the lost life they never had. This one's quite long but it builds nicely. We've all watched the morning harden upon the wall, I guess. But while the wife carked it upstairs? Unmoved, unknowing... The Going Why did you give no hint that nightThat quickly after the morrow's dawn,And calmly, as if indifferent quite,You would close your term here, up and be gone Where I could not follow With wing of swallowTo gain one glimpse of you ever anon! Never to bid good-bye Or lip me the softest call,Or utter a wish for a word, while ISaw morning harden upon the wall, Unmoved, unknowing That your great goingHad place that moment, and altered all.Why do you make me leave the houseAnd think for a breath it is you I seeAt the end of the alley of bending boughsWhere so often at dusk you used to be; Till in darkening dankness The yawning blanknessOf the perspective sickens me! You were she who abode By those red-veined rocks far West,You were the swan-necked one who rodeAlong the beetling Beeny Crest, And, reining nigh me, Would muse and eye me,While Life unrolled us its very best.Why, then, latterly did we not speak,Did we not think of those days long dead,And ere your vanishing strive to seekThat time's renewal? We might have said, "In this bright spring weather We'll visit togetherThose places that once we visited." Well, well! All's past amend, Unchangeable. It must go.I seem but a dead man held on endTo sink down soon. . . . O you could not know That such swift fleeing No soul foreseeing--Not even I--would undo me so! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6367-to-cease-upon-the-midnight-with-no-pain/#findComment-205726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadwolf Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Good to have you back and all that Ted but could we have a couple rib splitters before you carry on with your poetry posts please. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6367-to-cease-upon-the-midnight-with-no-pain/#findComment-205727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PinkyB Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 A shrug of a poem, one of the few I remember off by heart (I suppose because it's short, if not that sweet)..Resume Razors pain you;Rivers are damp;Acids stain you;And drugs cause cramp.Guns aren't lawful;Nooses give;Gas smells awful;You might as well live.- Dorothy ParkerSeems a good motto for life, really. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/6367-to-cease-upon-the-midnight-with-no-pain/#findComment-205728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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