Daily Mail readers show their true colours

[Tony.London Suburbs]

taper Wrote:

And welling was the BNP's headquarters until recently.

It was indeed.

Why was that? They realised that many disaffected South Londoners moved out to Welling and its environs because they saw "their" South London changing before their very eyes so they thought that some people there would have an affinity with them.

Luckily, they were moved on.

[Sherwick]

note that 'Greater London' only came into being in 1965.

[Tony.London Suburbs]

Sherwick Wrote:

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> note that 'Greater London' only came into being in 1965.

Indeedy. It will e fascinating seeing that 1971 census as in the late 1960's there was hardly a School that had more than a handful of Non-Whites. My School had 4 out of 1,100 kids. ( Leo Solomons/Banda-Atila/Festus Fairwhether and Worrel Sterling) thats 1965-1971. I do not ever recall seeing any Non-White in any Primary School in South London, but there, presumably, must have been some Non-White Guys.

[gallinello]

TLS, as ever, I knew you would not let me down!

Hats off to you and your ill-thought out, contradictory belief system.

You are a true enigma.

[taper]

TLS

LSE report by Tony Travers, 2006; as follows:

"By 1961, the number of London residents born in the ?New Commonwealth? was 242,000, providing a broad approximation of the overall level of the ?ethnic minority? population. This number grew to 583,000 by 1971"

Easy to miss at the time I guess.

[Huguenot]

However brutal the debate, I'm proud of our forum that we'll respect the rights of our members to express themselves.

I appreciate my underperformance,;-)

[Tony.London Suburbs]

Huguenot Wrote:

However brutal the debate, I'm proud of our forum that we'll respect the rights of our members to express themselves.

I appreciate my underperformance,;-)

Absolutely Hugsy! I mean can you positively imagine the provocation of an alternative view that many people, born in England/Britain actually choose to preserve a "traditionally" English/British lifestyle in England/Britain!!

How outrageous an idea is that, on an internet forum set deep in the heart of The Capital of England?

Some people have shown commendable restraint when dealing with that whole concept!

Bravo! I say!

[Huguenot]

;-)

[daizie]

careful , could be interpreted as racist .

[Huguenot]

Yes daizie it could.

[daizie]

Lol !

[Jeremy]

To be frank I disagree with a lot of what TLS has said here... but it is a mistake to confuse it with racism. We're discussing social and cultural issues, not whether one race is superior to another.

[Tony.London Suburbs]

Jeremy Wrote:

We're discussing social and cultural issues, not whether one race is superior to another.

Precisement Jeremy.

Nobody is saying that one race is superior or inferior to any other but to not realise major cultural diffeences betwen certain races who inhabit Britain is rikkidoodalous, as the Late Hylda Baker used to say.

Not to realise that different Ethnic Groups and Races CHOOSE to spend time and socialise, often exclusively, solely with other Members of that same Race or Ethnicity is ostrich-like to put it mildly.

[mockney piers]

I see that people in Belfast are exvercising their rights to maintain a homogenous culture in the face of swarthy provocation by people opting to hang around with others of their own ilk (in about two houses by the sounds of things).

How noble.

[Huguenot]

I'm guessing the viloent b@stards will tend to use Tony's observations as support?

In case Tony is unaware of the real consequences of his jinogoist views, here's the link

Nasty sh*ts, except TLS, who of course just thinks that the world would be a better place if we, well, you know...

In fact, it's a pretty good thing that the residents of suburbia don't p*ss in your letterbox and assault your wife to send one back to the city?

[Marmora Man]

It was also somewhat sickening to hear Martin McGuiness decrying the terrorising of the Romanians by the locals. Given his history as an active terrorist and then an apologist for terrorism this was the height of hypocrosy.

[david_carnell]

A few friends and I watched a film last night. This quote seemed quite apt given the current topic. Excuse the pop-philosophy nature:

It is said that what is called the Spirit of an Age is something to which one cannot return. That this spirit gradually dissipates is due to the world's coming to an end. In the same way, a single year does not have just spring or summer. A single day, too, is the same. For this reason, although one would like to change today's world back to the spirit of one hundred years or more ago, it cannot be done. Thus it is important to make the best out of every generation.

[Tony.London Suburbs]

Huguenot Wrote:

....real consequences of his jinogoist views, here's the link

"extreme patriotism in the form of aggressive foreign policy".[1] In practice, it refers to the advocation of the use of threats or actual force against other countries in order to safeguard what they perceive as their country's national interests, and colloquially to excessive bias in judging one's own country as superior to others ? an extreme type of nationalism.

Thats a definition of Jingoism Huguenot.

I've long since realised that your views of my beliefs do not take account anything that I've actually written but you have excelled yourself this time.

Take the utter garbage you have written above about my "jingoistic" views, lets see shall we....

Based on the above definition, apart from the fact that:

1/ My patriotism is not extreme in any way. OR THAT

2/ I'm not agressive in any way and do not approove of any aggression on racial matters OR THAT

3/ I do not advocate the use of threats or actual force against anyone from any other country in order to safeguard anything OR THAT

4/ I do not use ANY bias, excessive or otherwise, in judging one's own country as superior to others

Other than those 4 caveats, you might have a point.

I even wrote on my previous post prior to yours that "Nobody is saying that one race is superior or inferior to any other .."..

What I AM acknowledging that there ARE Cultural differences between most/all Racial Groups and that the overwhelming majority of people in this Country of ALL Races would choose to live and socialise amongst their own Race, preferably.

I wasn't going to add what I observed yesterday but it simply re-inforced what I learnt around 25/30 years ago and have observed on most days since.

In the White Area of New Eltham last night I saw 6 Guys from another Race altogether then 2 minutes driving time later, another 17/18 of the same Racial Group and every Member of that Group were of the same Racial type ( Black in these cases).

I did not see any other Black Guys through the whole of driving through New Eltham apart from these Groups.

These 22/23 Teenagers clearly CHOSE to be solely with their own Racial Group.

I'm sure if asked they would say that they can identify more with their own Racial Group, have a shared Culture and have, generally, more in common with each other than anyone else.

Nothing wrong with White Guys/Jewish people/Asians/East Europeans/Turkish/Greeks/Black Guys doing that but NOT to notice that this, "generally", is the case throughout the streets of London is either ignorant of the truth or delusional, as it doesn't fit in to the way YOU WANT IT TO BE....

As I've said before it does NOT mean we should not get on well with each other and treat each other with equal respect but, ultimately, most people prefer living and socialising within their own Race, whether some like it or not....

[ontheedge]

yawn

[Tony.London Suburbs]

ontheedge Wrote:

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> yawn

I hope you are not blaming me ontheedge.

I was finished with this thread but, you may like/accept/tolerate being accused of something you are not but I don't too kindly to it.

[Sherwick]

Tony.London Suburbs Wrote:

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ultimately, most people

> prefer living and socialising within their own

> Race, whether some like it or not....

Well I don't. What's more, I know many others that don't too. In fact, I couldn't give a rat's ar*e what race people are that I socialise with.

[Tony.London Suburbs]

Sherwick Wrote:

Tony.London Suburbs Wrote:

ultimately, most people prefer living and socialising within their own Race, whether some like it or not....

Well I don't. What's more, I know many others that don't too. In fact, I couldn't give a rat's ar*e what race people are that I socialise with.

As someone who, almost certainly, socialises with a higher proportion of friends from different Races than anyone else on EDF, I tend to agree Sherwick but it looks like we are in the minority Nationwide ....

[Sherwick]

Tony.London Suburbs Wrote:

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> Sherwick Wrote:

> Tony.London Suburbs Wrote:

> ultimately, most people prefer living and

> socialising within their own Race, whether some

> like it or not....

>

> Well I don't. What's more, I know many others that

> don't too. In fact, I couldn't give a rat's ar*e

> what race people are that I socialise with.

>

> As someone who, almost certainly, socialises with

> a higher proportion of friends from different

> Races than anyone else on EDF, I tend to agree

> Sherwick but it looks like we are in the minority

> Nationwide ....

Only in your mind.

[Tony.London Suburbs]

Sherwick Wrote:

Only in your mind.

You seem an honest Guy.

As you venture around London over the next few weeks tell me your observations about who socialises with who ( NOT work related, obviously).

If you can't see that most Students and adults interact with their own Race, PRIMARILY I'll be astonished Sherwick...

[Sherwick]

prepare to be more and more astonished the older you get.