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Tony.London Suburbs Wrote:

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> woofmarkthedog Wrote:

> Who are Mott the Hoople though

>

> Band I saw in 1971 at The Surrey Rooms, The Oval.

>

> I was there Hoochie.

>

> Have to say I don't remember you there, though.


You must remember, I was wearing jeans, flared they were.

Tony.London Suburbs Wrote:

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> HonaloochieB Wrote:

> ...raising a copy of Brain Capers.

>

> 'ere you nicked my copy of that??? Its bleedin'

> gorn...

>

> If it was you then Death May Be Your Santa Claus,

> Hoochie...:X


It was me alright and what's more it's got the free mask as well. Sweeeet.

Britain seems to have an unhealthy obsession with crime. Pumped-up on television programmes consisting solely of roughly-compiled instances of gratuitous violence captured on CCTV, accompanied by a morose voiceover and a dark, menacing trancey soundtrack. The lines between what's useful and informative and what's sensationalist and mildly hysterical are often blurred.

At the risk of being a foolish bait-taker, I don't think people get lambasted when they give sensible descriptions of criminals, i.e. descriptions that would actually allow someone to recognise a criminal. A good example would be the recent 'dodgy blokes' thread. I think if one had read that thread and saw the people in question then one could be reasonably certain of a positive I.D. It's when people use one-word descriptions that cover a significant proportion of the population that others pick up on it. A one-word description won't help a criminal be caught, but it could do wonders to reinforce a stereotype.


Moos (who should know better)

Fair point Moos, but the problem is labelling someone a criminal when there is no evidence that a crime has been committed. On that "dodgy blokes" thread someone said that they might have simply been having a look around the area and that may have indeed been the case yet the impression is of yet another unsettling incident having taken place in our area.

Citizen, in that particular example you could be right (although the behaviour did sound very strange to me). But my point is that it was a good and recognisable description. If someone says 'I was burgled by two black guys' then I don't think anyone could use that description to help solve the crime. And that is exactly the labelling problem that you refer to.


(I think we're agreeing with each other, by the way).

???? Wrote:

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> I dunno Moos "Today I had a cream pie thrown in my

> face by a two clowns on Barry Road, avoid these so

> called 'funsters'" strikes me as a short but

> valuable description (and advice).


*rejects kindly offer of sense of humour transplant*


Au contraire, Blackadder. There are very few clowns (qua: clowns*) in the East Dulwich area, so this fulfils my requirement that a description suffice to catch the criminal. Forgive my usage of a tired old EDF hilarity, but if you were to say that you had had an organic sausage thrown in your face by a thirty-something, designer-jeans-clad, sunglasses-adorned, Bugaboo-pushing, middle-class Mummy then I'd have to pull you up for perpetuating a stereotype without actually helping narrow down the relevant population much.


*In other words, I mean people dressed as clowns and employed in circuses rather than any reference to posters on the Forum in general.

The serious point of reporting suspected crime on a public forum needs special attention. A separate section for such threads has been ruled out. I think everyone should resist the temption to do it. If you witness/experience or suspect a crime, phone the police, then text your mates. Posting it on the forum is not the same as texting/phoning your friends. If you have to use the forum, use the pm facility

bigbadwolf Wrote:

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> No. I only watch the most extreme animal porn. If

> it doesn't have at least one Quadruped and a

> rolling pin then I'm not interested.



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Uh oh!

citizenED Wrote:

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> The serious point of reporting suspected crime on

> a public forum needs special attention. A separate

> section for such threads has been ruled out. I

> think everyone should resist the temption to do

> it. If you witness/experience or suspect a crime,

> phone the police, then text your mates. Posting it

> on the forum is not the same as texting/phoning

> your friends. If you have to use the forum, use

> the pm facility


Assuming that people aren't calling the police, texting friends, making the dinner and then using the forum, of course.

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