barry road disturbance

[mrsorganicsausage]

Anyone know what's going on on Barry Road (again) this morning. There are about 15 buses all on Peckham Rye with the engines switched off and ambulances on Barry Road!!

[????]

Beaver and Nigel tooled up and right at it...propa norty

[lilolil]

Someone was lying on the ground being attended to as I drove past. Looked like they had been run over. I do hope they are ok

[louisiana]

I was nearly knocked down today by a white van man hurtling illegally over the Give Way sign at junction between Underhill Road and Dunstan's (he nearly did for a car as well, lots of hooting). He was heading for Barry.

Barry does seem to be a magnet for the badness in ED. Bad Barry. Bad.

[Only me!]

"Magnet for badness..."

As a driver I have to say that Barry Road does pose an awful lot of Road Traffic Accident potential hot spots.

It's dead straight, slightly down hill & therefore with excellent visibility straight ahead. Which gives a false impression of safety.

BUT

With numerous side roads, some of them very busy & many of which have compromised vision as you emerge out of them.

This is a busy thoroughfare which demands attention & courteous driving. Both of which can be absent.

& when two equally distracted or speeding road users meet ... the consequences can be fatal.

I have no evidence or speed trap proof, but in my experience 30mph down this road is:

a.Rarely observed.... & if it was.

b.It would still be too fast.

Therefore measures to ensure a lowering of average speeds down this road & steps to ensure better lines of sight as you pull across it, would be both sensible & safer.

[Penguin68]

Most of the roads in the area around Barry are 20mph limited - Underhill certainly is and that is a bus route (albeit a small bus). Isn't it time that Barry was limited and enforced as 20mph? Or (and/ or) broken up by mini-roundabouts and blocked rights of way so that people can't (despite the temptation) get any speed going - clearly the evidence is that (some) people who use it can't be trusted to drive with the care and consideration a suburban, residential, street demands. Just because buses travel down it doesn't make it a 'main' road.

[Gimme]

In parts of Scotland, "barry" means "very good". As in "that was totally barry, so it was"

Quite ironic isn't it.

louisiana Wrote:

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> Barry does seem to be a magnet for the badness in

> ED. Bad Barry. Bad.

[lozzyloz]

ironically the police traffic incident board on the corner of Underhill and Barry has created another blind spot.

[louisiana]

The Barry Road Incident.

It could be the title of a thriller.

Or a landfill indie band.

[angetastic]

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[happyED]

lozzyloz Wrote:

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> ironically the police traffic incident board on

> the corner of Underhill and Barry has created

> another blind spot.

I thought exactly the same when trying to cross Barry Road by car the other day. Does anybody know who we can call to ask for the board to be repositioned? Do you know the number?

[the-e-dealer]

So what do we do let the few drive like madmen?

[plimsoul]

mirrors of some sort on corners so you can see what's coming down the road, otherwise half those corners are blind spots. you get them on the continent everywhere.

[SteveT]

Speed camera?????

[Special Chocolates]

As someone who lives on Barry rd I disagree with comment about people knowing there are some blackspots. Local drivers may but as Barry rd runs paralell to LL but with no traffic lights etc it is often used as a cut through for a) people going way over 30 and b) lorries/coaches who want a quick route to a205.

I get why there are no speed bumps as emergency services use it and it's a main bus route but I have often though speed cameras should be installed. Am generally very anti more ways to make driving expensive in London but I think speed people drive down Barry rd is incredibly dangerous and am surprised that it's not site of more frequent accidents.

I was even going to write to council about it but scared of becoming a nosy old biddy as it is without a bit of local campaigning!

[reetpetite]

I hate speed bumps as I have said before but I think after reading all the posts cameras are the answer .As you live on Barry road you could start by getting some support from the local schools ,maybe getting petitions signed by parents as this area is a busy route for schoolchildren.You wont be thought as nosy but a concerned resident who obviously feels that something needs to be done.

[espelli]

Isn't there a Barry Road Residents Association? I live on Barry Road too and they might be the people to talk to to start a local campaign/contact the council etc. It may be that there is already something in progress. I have no idea how to contact them though - Does anyone know?

[Special Chocolates]

I would be keen to get involved in a petition or similar but like you say there might be something underway already by Barry rd RA...I bet there are members lurking on EDF who could clarify...

[Dulwich_ Park_ Fairy]

Barry does seem to be a magnet for the badness in ED. Bad Barry. Bad.

No one likes us, we don't care.

[Pugwash]

The Barry Area Residents Association are aware of the accidents etc in the road. They have forwarded information on to the local councillors and members are looking at all the 'danger spots' .

They are in agreement that the extended pavements restrict clear sightings of the main road.

Two of the BARA members sit on the East Dulwich SN Police Committee and will be taking back people's concerns to Sgt. Jackson.

Ironically, the raised speed table at Goodrich junction had to be lowered as LT buses refused to go up Barry Road as the speed table was too high. Council were forced to lower it which obviously increased the speed which cars could drive down the road. It was public pressure by local people which got the 2 sets of lights at Underhill and Upland Road junction installed in the first instances.

BARA can be contacted either at The East Dulwich Community Centre, Darrell Road. SE 22 9NL

or c/o 274 Barry Road, East Dulwich. SE 22 0JT. Constructive ideas will be welcomed by the committee.

Meetings are on the 2nd Tuesday of the month at 8 pm at East Dulwich Community Centre. Next meeting 8th September.

Next General Meeting 13th October in conjunction with the East Dulwich Society.

[Penguin68]

Whilst Underhill is a rat-run, and thus may have significant numbers of non-EDers using it, most of the remaining side streets are mainly used by locals - it is Barry which, in particular, has non locals who may be unaware of local conditions,and who are speeding. We may thus assume that people exiting side streets are more likely to be aware of dangers, even though, un-sighted as we often are by parked vehicles etc. we still have to take calculated risks. These would be reduced if, as I and others have suggested on this thread, continental style steel mirrors were erected to overcome blind-spots on intersections, together with more speed warning displays, if other types of speed reducing road furniture are resisted by the mighty bus company.

[espelli]

Thank you Pugwash, that is really useful information and I will try to attend the next meeting.

[TonyQuinn]

I think that's a very selfish attitude angetastic. Clearly people are getting injured/killed on a regular basis. And it's time to sort this out once and for all. I understand the argument against speed humps. I always find that those signs indicating your speed, backed up by cameras, are the best way to slow down traffic consistently.

[mrsorganicsausage]

So no one know's exactly what happened last week then?? Blimey what a thread......

[computedshorty]

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