The US of A - definitions

[louisiana]

As America outdoes itself, insulting the intelligence of the rest of the world (including the Scots!), let us turn the tables.

What you call things matters greatly. The French may well be cheese-eating surrender monkeys, and whether you agree with it or not, the term has probably influenced the way you see the French.

Let us therefore turn our sights on the US of A. We know that the South is known as Jesusland. But we lack at present the language to succinctly describe this nation in such crystal-clear terms as we have for the French and Germans.

Let your imaginations run riot, why don't you.

[Sandperson]

I like America and Americans. The East and West coast anyway.

[Jah Lush]

Gun-toting, overweight; overbearing, loud-mouthed, thick, burger munching bastards.

[GSJ57]

My American husband and sons would beg to differ Jah!

[Fear 'n boozin]

How about - AMERICA: FUCK YEAH?

[Windom]

Land of Guns'n'Gawd

[GSJ57]

Only a few parts of it Windom....

[bigbadwolf]

I'm generally pro-American and am a great supporter of the 'special relationship'. I also think that Barack Obama is going to prove himself as a great force for change in the future. I was particularly impressed by his decision to introduce legislation capping the pay of many of Wall Streets players. That took a lot of guts to essentially say to an incredibly powerful institution that "you got us into this mess, now you're going to pay for your mistakes".

I personally don't think that any administration will successfully disarm it's citizens as there is a genuine feeling that they need the right to bare arms entrenched in their mind set. This is most probably encouraged by the countries pioneer, wild west history and Americans are a very proud and patriotic people who wont give in to the connection they have with their past and forefathers.

My issue with the current gun laws and politics isn't the fact they're constitutionally entitled to a firearms certificate but it's the type of hardware they have access to. In several states (mainly New England) people are allowed to purchase and hold several automatic weapons. To get hold of the particular rubber stamp on your license all you have to do is pay a $300 tax to the ATF (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms) for each weapon you wish to purchase. In the state of California it's perfectly legal to own a grenade launcher and many do. My point is that this sort of kit should only be reserved for the Military and Police, not for citizens. Basically, you don't need an anti tank weapon to hunt dear or protect your home.

My one word to sum up the Yanks.

Transparent.

[mockney piers]

That's hardly the spirit there G.

The French aren't really surrender monkeys (see verdun) and we hav greater varieties and eat more cheese.

This isn't about FACTS goddammit!!

[mockney piers]

What the hell do the police need grenade launchers for?!?!?

[bigbadwolf]

The Police don't need grenade launchers Mockney. All I'm saying is that serious military hardware should only be held by those in charge, not available on the open market.

[kpc]

Errant moose in Maine.

[Jah Lush]

GSJ57 Wrote:

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> My American husband and sons would beg to differ

> Jah!

I wasn't being serious. It was just a crass sweeping generalisation. You could probably say the same about the English.

[Fear 'n boozin]

it's ok - the police version carries 'less lethal' munitions than the military one:

http://world.guns.ru/grenade/gl35-e.htm

[bigbadwolf]

Well done Jah. That was a considerate reply.

[GSJ57]

No problem Jah - I know you weren't serious!

[Rhinestone Cowboy]

Vegas Baby!

[louisiana]

Sandperson Wrote:

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> I like America and Americans. The East and West

> coast anyway.

Yeah. Jesusland is that huge, huge area in the middle.

[Jah Lush]

Or the Deep South. The bible belt. Hell! Where does it end?

[bigbadwolf]

The Mexican and Canadian borders, as well as the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans.

[louisiana]

bigbadwolf Wrote:

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> I'm generally pro-American and am a great

> supporter of the 'special relationship'.

BBW, if you believe that the special relationship exists, other than as a one way street for the US of A to get what it wants, you are more stupid than I thought. B)

I also

> think that Barack Obama is going to prove himself

> as a great force for change in the future. I was

> particularly impressed by his decision to

> introduce legislation capping the pay of many of

> Wall Streets players. That took a lot of guts to

> essentially say to an incredibly powerful

> institution that "you got us into this mess, now

> you're going to pay for your mistakes".

>

> I personally don't think that any administration

> will successfully disarm it's citizens as there is

> a genuine feeling that they need the right to bare

bear

> arms entrenched in their mind set. This is most

> probably encouraged by the countries pioneer, wild

> west history and Americans are a very proud and

> patriotic people who wont give in to the

> connection they have with their past and

> forefathers.

>

> My issue with the current gun laws and politics

> isn't the fact they're constitutionally entitled

> to a firearms certificate but it's the type of

> hardware they have access to. In several states

> (mainly New England) people are allowed to

> purchase and hold several automatic weapons.

Yes, their murder licenses are very attractive.

To

> get hold of the particular rubber stamp on your

> license all you have to do is pay a $300 tax to

> the ATF (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms) for each

> weapon you wish to purchase. In the state of

> California it's perfectly legal to own a grenade

> launcher and many do. My point is that this sort

> of kit should only be reserved for the Military

> and Police, not for citizens. Basically, you don't

> need an anti tank weapon to hunt dear

deer

or protect

> your home.

>

> My one word to sum up the Yanks.

>

> Transparent.

That's good BBF.

Those people do what they say on the tin.

EXCEPT, when it comes to public funding. Because while the good ol' US of A protests so much the virtues of private everything, their private firms receive huge public funding, and have huge lobbies to ensure it stays that way.

They shout 'anti public' and then claim huge public subsidies. Under Bush this was rampant.

For me, the big enemy in the US of A is corporate lobbyists with multi-million pound budgets, who buy senators and congresspeople.

Someone tell me I'm wrong.

[louisiana]

Anyway, what I'm looking for is nice succinct names.

[bigbadwolf]

It is actually bare Lou.

Pinhead.

However...

I appreciate that it could be seen as a one way street and I'm mainly highlighting the general feeling of mutual respect given to Brits since we share such a common history and to an extent, culture.

I agree that the 'special relationship' is, a mainly one way street concerning U.S interests, but it can be beneficial when we're leaning away from Europe. A luxury that most E.U members don't enjoy.

Apart from America, Russia has got to be without a doubt, the most pikey nation on earth. It's far to big for it's own good and is run by some of the shadiest characters imaginable. The place is a mess!

[Sandperson]

I can't believe

a) someone was stupid enough to start this thread

and

b) she has got to the point, three posts in, where she is correcting people's spelling.

0/10

[DaveR]

No, it is "bear"

"2. To support and remove or carry; to convey. [1913 Webster]"