Upland Road / Crystal Palace Road junction

[RobMiller]

Is it just me, or is this junction getting a bit silly now? Construction work on both sides blocking access to one pavement and reducing the width of the other, and now huge road maintenance equipment parked up too.

[first mate]

Are those double yellows new?

[edhistory]

Is this thread relevant?

http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?20,1572216,1584685#msg-1584685

[RobMiller]

@edhistory - not sure? I've just been getting increasingly frustrated by the growing barricades which appear to be being put up to stop those of us to the east of Crystal Palace Road getting through to Lordship Lane. And the impact on the Upland Road businesses from months of obstruction doesn't seem to be something that troubles Southwark very much either...

[chichirara]

It's really dangerous today. A neighbour has photographed it and reported to Southwark. I pointed it out to a passing police officer as well. Thank you for your concern for the shops. I think all the Upland Road shops have noticed a drop in footfall since the beginning of the building works.

[first mate]

I hope that the shop owners get some sort of compensation for loss of business? It is crazy and I cannot understand how the Council have allowed this to proceed... everything is at the convenience of the developers and hang everyone else.

[EDmummy]

Last week there were builder vans (2 or 3) on the footpath plus a delivery of bricks. Very dangerous for pedestrians. The footpaths are very steadily being destroyed - will the developers be charged for this? I certainly hope so they're going to make a killing out of these properties.

[edhistory]

I thought the two developers needed to obtain and pay for licenses. Have they? Should they be retrospectively billed?

Is photo the F.M.Conway roller good enough and at the right time to provide evidence to issue a parking ticket?

[ourbubbleonline]

I agree with you Rob - Its a terrible set up and extremely dangerous for the public and road users and the hoarding they have up is ridiculously dangerous in itself, just about holding itself up. What council pillock allowed this application to go through?!!

[RobMiller]

It defeats me. The Conway vehicles being parked there is adding insult to injury re: the junction, and even considerate drivers are finding it tricky to navigate through the increasingly narrow gap!

[Siduhe]

Here's a slightly blurry example - large Conway vehicle parked on corner of this junction. The vehicle is so big it has to park partly on the pavement (which I doubt is made to bear this sort of weight). Taken last night at 9pm.

[Abe_froeman]

That's grossly inconsiderate.

[davidk]

This is being very poorly managed and is really dangerous, especially for vulnerable road users. I've reported to Southwark twice now. This morning there was a flat bed parked on Crystal Palace Rd, right on the corner with Upland Rd, completely blocking sight lines. This is absurd, especially during busy times.

[ed_pete]

Anyone know who the contractor is and whether they are registered with the Considerate Constructors Scheme. You can check here and make a complaint.

http://www.ccscheme.org.uk/index.php/affected-by-works

[RobMiller]

I think that Cosmur (the developers of the Old Police Station site) are: http://www.cosmur.co.uk/who-we-are/ (see logo at bottom of page).

It'd be good if our local Councillors could pick this up. It seemed crazy when the north side pavement was originally blocked for what will eventually be over a year once it's finally opened again, but now it's incredibly dangerous.

[DulwichFox]

No doubt Southwark Council have already got Conway's pencilled in to do the repair work to any paving they damage.

[RobMiller]

Just. Beyond.

http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?5,336529,1590461,page=152#msg-1590461

[Abe_froeman]

Shocking!

[first mate]

The developes are treating this junction as an extension of their property. These big developers are clearly too powerful, Councillors seem too scared to take them on or be publicly critical and I am not sure the Council care- after all who knows what goes on behind closed doors.

This development is not being properly monitored, if it was how could pictures like this emerge and no action taken? Imagine if ordinary residents took over the public streets and paths and blocked them for months on end?

[edhistory]

Who is the person from Southwark Council Building Control who is responsible for this site?

[intexasatthe moment]

If I parked with 4 wheels on a pavement forcing pedestrians into the road and obscuring a junction wouldn't I incur some kind of penalty - parking ticket at the least ?

[simonethebeaver]

I got a parking ticket for having two wheels up on a driveway, having foolishly parked like that to obstruct a narrow road less. I was there five minutes too. I hope that van got two.

[ourbubbleonline]

What with the building works on the other side of the road now - WTF! Where are pedestrians supposed to walk. Southwark Council must be cashing in on this - its an accident waiting to happen! whenever I walk past either of these sites most of the workman are sitting down doing sweet FA anyway, in their trucks illegally parked blaring out shite music - who ever is employing them is a fool - too!

[James Barber]

Council Officers are happy - as per emails I've received. And will not make the old Police station builders there release the road or pavement. I've raised my complaint to the next stage to try and get some sense into this dangerous and damaging situation.

[first mate]

James,

Thank you for pursuing this. There really is danger of setting a precedent as other building companies are likley to follow the example of Cosmur and see that they get away with using the street as a building site extension, with no fear of consequences. The dangers to all road and path users are clear.