Typical Guardian

[jimmy two times]

I have just read a ridiculous, stupidly right-on, Political Correctness gone mad piece on the back of the sports page written by Richard Williams in which he advocates Hope Powell, manager of the England women's football team, should succeed Fabio Capello !

[woofmarkthedog]

Does she ride a bike Jimmy ?

[Moos]

Here's the link, in case anyone wants to read it.

[Brendan]

Where?s the political correctness gone mad*? He makes a convincing argument, not one of his points has anything to do with her gender.

*Whatever that actually means.

[bigbadwolf]

I think I've lost count of how many times I've stated that the Guardian is the most insipid and patronising broadsheet. It's readership are misguided fools of their own niavety.

Most c_ntish.

[daizie]

lets face it, she looks like a man .

[Brendan]

No more so than the others. The press is a load of politically engendered codswallop. Anyone who buys in wholesale into the ideology peddled by any of the main broadsheets is about as misguided as someone who thinks that their world view can be vindicated through affiliation to a political party.

I have to read the Times, Guardian and Independent to try to figure out what is really going on.

Although at least you don?t encounter some of the blatant right wing bullshit in the Guardian that you sometimes come across in some of the comment pieces in the Times.

[Jeremy]

I think that's pretty much spot-on... there's as much nonsense in the guardian as there is in any other paper. But while I often get a pissed off with some of the articles in there, it's nowhere near as infuriating as the biased reports on immigration/housing/benefits you sometimes see - particularly in the tabloids.

The article is a bit daft really, and rather sensationalist. I'm sure the journalist responsible for it doesn't for a second think that it will ever happen. But I guess it's always healthy to question accepted wisdom.

[jimmy two times]

He doesn't have to mention her gender. She is quite clearly a woman and he is advocating she manages the men's international team. Isn't that a politically correct proposition?

[daizie]

maybe shes been airbrushed then

[bigbadwolf]

"Although at least you don?t encounter some of the blatant right wing bullshit in the Guardian that you sometimes come across in some of the comment pieces in the Times."

Yeah, as a reader of both the Saturday and Sunday Times I'm inclined to agree with you Brendan. I wasn't around when Harold Evans was editor of the Sunday Times but I've read excerpts of his contribution to the paper and there's a stark contrast to it's content before Rupert Murdoch made the fool hardy decision to oust Evans and what John Witherow lets go to print.

My grandfather was an enormous fan of Evans, and on his forced departure from the editors desk my grandfather was so angry that he went into a drunken rage and burnt down his shed as a symbolic protest.

I prefer the Times but I still read the Observer and the Independant.

[Fear 'n boozin]

They should call in the IAAF, they'd know what to do.

[Brendan]

jimmy two times Wrote:

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> He doesn't have to mention her gender. She is

> quite clearly a woman and he is advocating she

> manages the men's international team. Isn't that a

> politically correct proposition?

So? Why can?t a men?s team have a female coach?

In fact we had a female water polo coach at provincial level. I never thought it was somehow ground breakingly politically correct.

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

fisher athletic or whatever they are called now, have a female coach.

[Jeremy]

Brendan Wrote:

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> So? Why can?t a men?s team have a female coach?

I don't see any problem with a female coach either, but they'd need to prove themselves at the top level of men's football before becoming national coach.

I don't watch much football, but from what I have seen, there is still a significant difference in quality - not to mention the pace of the game - between mens and womens football.

[JetSetWilly]

its a decent enough piece, but unfortunately the author of it is imho a bit of a knob, and creating a bit of controversy is par for the course for him. i,m still waiting for a reply to the e-mail i sent him several years ago, in response to his piece that despite all evidence to the contrary, he still tried to insinuate that lance armstrong, achieved his success by the use of illegal drugs.

[jimmy two times]

Women's football is sub standard. I don't even think England's women internationals could beat a mediocre semi pro team. Therefore the only possible reason he can be advocating her as a future England manager is because she is a woman and it would somehow be groundbreaking.

[Brendan]

Controversial, unrealistic it may be but ?political correctness gone maid? it aint.

[mockney piers]

I don't see why that's a 'politically correct' notion. Absurd to suggest it is.

I'd say proposing her as coach is an absurd proposition also within the parameters that the sport functions.

Firstly she hasn't proven herself in the more pressurised world of mens football let alone at the top of the game. I would also say that, deeply mysoginistic as the game is, that regardless of her ability she would not be able to eran the respect of the players.

None of which actually denies that given the chance she might actually be excelent, and god knows if she actually won something shed immediately be in the pantheon, though like politics I'm sure shed be the exception rather than harkening a deeper social change.

Not really a fan of the guardian either, but anyone has to be better than James 'misery guts' Lawton, who though rarely wrong about anything still makes you want to argue against his points regardless and elicits a desire to slap him repeatedly whilst screaming CHEER THE FUCK UP YOU SOD!!!!

[*Bob*]

I don't why she couldn't handle the job.

The England Manager's job:

1. Pick the players everyone expects to get picked, plus one young 'un who aint ready! eee just aint readeeee

2. Send them out on the field to play football, like what they do all for the rest of the year.

3. Mumble the appropriate platitudes according to victory or defeat at the subsequent press conference.

4. Pocket a few million pounds.

Essentially, you could give the job to a jar of pickled onions and get exactly the same results.

[Sue]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> > Essentially, you could give the job to a jar of

> pickled onions and get exactly the same results.

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:))

[RosieH]

Damn those women, with their jobs and their votes and their poor hand-eye coordination. Now if only they'd come up with a European final for cakes or bleeding or something.

[Tony.London Suburbs]

RosieH Wrote:

or bleeding or something.

Just to establish RosieH.

Is that "bleeding" or "bleeding something"??

[RosieH]

it's "bleeding or something"

meh

[Tony.London Suburbs]

No! It don't really say bleeding anything really but there could have been a typo.

tls exits stage left in a headless condition having just had it surgically bitten off by dear Rosie..