Jump to content

Recommended Posts

I spoke to the priest at St Thomas More and he said he would christen my son but I had to attend church weekly for at least 6 months or so before he could discuss christening arrangements. My son is already 6 months now (and i've since attended for a couple of months) so this means that he will be christened a lot older than I would have liked (babies in my family have traditionally been christened by about 2-3 months old).....so I expect that he would say the same to you! Hope this helps...

I find it amazing that it's such a difficult thing to do here in the UK especially when the Catholic church numbers are dwindling. I've had both mine christened in Ireland (husband's Irish) and it was the easiest, no hassle thing to do. The priest just met with us the morning of and had us fill out some paperwork and it was done after the morning mass. We never met the priest before, but it was done at the 'family' church he was really relaxed about it.


Sorry this doesn't help you, but I've known a few people to go to Ireland to christen their children.

Definitely start going to church as regularly as you can. Once the priest sees a degree of commitment to the church you will be made much more welcome although I rather suspect you don't feel like going just now!


I suspect there has been an upturn in requests for Christenings in recent years with the increased birth rate locally. They just want to know you're genuine. Good luck.

Maybe this thread is not the place but I think that given that a christening is meant to be a solemn commitment to bring your children up with god in their lives, then having actually gone to church other than a few weddings and maybe at christmas is a fair enough committment, rather than some kind of tick box of middle class convention? Does make me laugh posters moaning about having to actually go to church!!


Personally, I think it's hogwash and my kids won't go anywhere nera afont unless they decide themselves, but have no problem with ACTIVE practising christians doing this..the rest of you?? don't get it at all. You need to conform that much?

I think you can agree with the meaning of a christening and want it for your child without necessarily being a regular church attender - that's certainly how I feel. In my mind it's about a public ceremony to appoint godparents and welcome the child to the world, and if it's in church then that's in a spiritual setting you're comfortable with. Of course would totally respect a priest saying he'd rather we were regular attenders, and I wouldn't attend just for the sake of the christening. What we've done is found a priest and church who are willing to christen our child regardless of the fact we're not regular attenders. if that makes sense (just back from a rare night out).

I agree 100% with what Belle said. I'm not Catholic but my husband is and we decided to have our children christened back in Ireland at his family's church. We don't attend church here in the UK (we do when in Ireland), but it was something we wanted to do for our children and the christening itself got huge amounts of family together to celebrate a new baby in the family.


Edited to add that I think it's more about a spiritual commitment to the child if anything. I do agree in theory with what ????s is saying about church attendance and naturally the priest would want to see the parent's commitment to the church, the catholic faith and so on and so forth, but saying it's some kind of middle class conformity ... come on now!


???? - don't make any sudden movements, open the door slowly and go back to the lounge. ;-)

'S'alright Quids, I've got your back!


I'm with him on this. Parents and Godparents make a huge, solemn vow to reject the Devil and turn to Christ. No priest wants you to perjure yourself in church in front of witnesses, so it's incumbent on him to make sure you understand what you are promising and with the help of Godparents, friends and family, agree to bring up the child in the Christian faith.


That's not implying perfection - none of us can achieve that - but you are agreeing to make a stab at it.


There is also the cynical side to all this: some parents want to get their children into faith schools and will cavalierly have their children baptised to achieve this. By asking for a six month regular commitment, it does weed out all but the hardy!

No...the words of a christian wedding are vows to each other infront of friends and god...,,maybe - it is also a legal ceremony. I bave no problems with people from a christian tradition doing this in church however 'lite' their faith. A christening is a solely religous ceremony with vows to god to renounce the devil and swearing to raise your kids or godchildren as christians. Very different.

I appreciate that it was a light-hearted comment, but telling someone that they're not welcome in the family room and that they should go back to the lounge seems quite rude to me.


This is a discussion forum, and I don't think ???? should be made to apologise for providing his view.

sb - We had a similar problem when trying to organise the christening of our son. I approached my local Catholic church and was told I was not part of the faith community so would have to attend regularly and then the priest started talking about people only wanting to have their children christened to gain entry into a Catholic school. He also asked of my marital status and then proceeded to go completely off the topic of christening. In the end we organised a CofE christening, as my partner is CofE, and I teach at a CofE school. We had a lovely baptism which was very liberal, mainly due to the priest who conducted the ceremony. Another reason we went with her and CofE. A christening is a very personal decision and I wish you all the luck in your choice.

I had exactly the same experience with my two children when we were looking to get them christened. I was at a catholic school as a child and an alter boy at the church at which my wife and were married but when i asked about my children they were not interested as i wasn't a regular parishioner.


My mother who is an ardent catholic was furious when i told her what had happened and as god didn't want my kids i said i couldn't be ar*ed to get them christened ( this had been an ongoing batle since i was about 10 with Mum). She then arranged for them to be christened at Westminster Cathedral which i thought was quite a sly move on her part as it would have seemed churlish for me to refuse.


I have never attended church willingly and dont realy believe in god but am more than happy for my kids to, as it does give them a good moral compass on which to live thier lives and it seems to make a lot of people very happy. Im not sure if they believe in god but my daughter now goes to a Methodist school where they have thier own chaplin and chapple in the grounds so she goes to mass about three times a week and seems to be quite content with it.


I had them christened simply because my mother arranged it as i feel religeon per se is becomeing less and less part of our lives as a society, if i was back in that situation again now i dont think i would bother.

sb Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> Is CoE the same? In terms of needing to prove

> 6months church attendance? One of us is Catholic

> (Irish) and one is CoE and neither of us cares

> much which church gives its blessing, though it

> would be nice to be made feel welcome.


You are entitled to have your child christened in the C of E parish you live in regardless of attendance. If you wish to have them christened in a church outside of your parish you may be required to attend for a certain length of time.


In our case we were asked to attend St John's for 6 months which we were very happy to do. It is about introducing your child to a community which will make a commitment to your family and so they ask your family to make a commitment to the church.

Sorry but that's not quite accurate. In CofE you are legally entitled to be married in your parish church provided you meet the legal requirements, all other offices are at the vicar's discretion.


Don't forget that if you don't want to make those vows, you can have a blessing or thanksgiving service instead to introduce the baby.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Latest Discussions

    • Granted Shoreditch is still London, but given that the council & organisers main argument for the festival is that it is a local event, for local people (to use your metaphor), there's surprisingly little to back this up. As Blah Blah informatively points out, this is now just a commercial venture with no local connection. Our park is regarded by them as an asset that they've paid to use & abuse. There's never been any details provided of where the attendees are from, but it's still trotted out as a benefit to the local community.  There's never been any details provided of any increase in sales for local businesses, but it's still trotted out as a benefit to the local community.  There's promises of "opportunities" for local people & traders to work at the festival, but, again, no figures to back this up. And lastly, the fee for the whole thing goes 100% to running the Events dept, and the dozens of free events that no-one seems able to identify, and, yes, you guessed it - no details provided for by the council. So again, no tangible benefit for the residents of the area.
    • I mean I hold no portfolio to defend Gala,  but I suspect that is their office.  I am a company director,  my home address is also not registered with Companies House. Also guys this is Peckham not Royston Vasey.  Shoreditch is a mere 20 mins away by train, it's not an offshore bolt hole in Luxembourg.
    • While it is good that GALA have withdrawn their application for a second weekend, local people and councillors will likely have the same fight on their hands for next year's event. In reading the consultation report, I noted the Council were putting the GALA event in the same light as all the other events that use the park, like the Circus, the Fair and even the FOPR fete. ALL of those events use the common, not the park, and cause nothing like the level of noise and/or disruption of the GALA event. Even the two day Irish Festival (for those that remember that one) was never as noisy as GALA. So there is some disingenuity and hypocrisy from the Council on this, something I wll point out in my response to the report. The other point to note was that in past years branches were cut back for the fencing. Last year the council promised no trees would be cut after pushback, but they seem to now be reverting to a position of 'only in agreement with the council's arbourist'. Is this more hypocrisy from 'green' Southwark who seem to once again be ok with defacing trees for a fence that is up for just days? The people who now own GALA don't live in this area. GALA as an event began in Brockwell Park. It then lost its place there to bigger events (that pesumably could pay Lambeth Council more). One of the then company directors lived on the Rye Hill Estate next to the park and that is likely how Peckham Rye came to be the new choice for the event. That person is no longer involved. Today's GALA company is not the same as the 'We Are the Fair' company that held that first event, not the same in scope, aim or culture. And therein lies the problem. It's not a local community led enterprise, but a commercial one, underwritten by a venture capital company. The same company co-run the Rally Event each year in Southwark Park, which btw is licensed as a one day event only. That does seem to be truer to the original 'We Are the Fair' vision, but how much of that is down to GALA as opoosed to 'Bird on the Wire' (the other group organising it) is hard to say.  For local people, it's three days of not being able to open windows, As someone said above, if a resident set up a PA in their back garden and subjected the neighbours to 10 hours of hard dance music every day for three days, the Council would take action. Do not underestimate how distressing that is for many local residents, many of whom are elderly, frail, young, vulnerable. They deserve more respect than is being shown by those who think it's no big deal. And just to be clear, GALA and the council do not consider there to be a breach of db level if the level is corrected within 15 minutes of the breach. In other words, while db levels are set as part of the noise management plan, there is an acknowledgement that a breach is ok if corrected within 15 minutes. That is just not good enough. Local councillors objected to the proposed extension. 75% of those that responded to the consultation locally did not want GALA 26 to take place at all. For me personally, any goodwill that had been built up through the various consultations over recent years was erased with that application for a second weekend, and especially given that when asked if there were plans for that in post 2025 event feedback meetings (following rumours), GALA lied and said there were no plans to expand. I have come to the conclusion that all the effort to appease on some things is merely an exercise in show, to get past the council's threshold for the events licence. They couldn't give a hoot in reality for local people, and people that genuinely care about parkland, don't litter it with noisy festivals either.   
Home
Events
Sign In

Sign In



Or sign in with one of these services

Search
×
    Search In
×
×
  • Create New...