Ridgley Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Charlie Sheen, formerly the highest paid television actor in America, has confirmed that he is HIV positive.The 50-year-old had been subjected to rumours about his health for months. But on Tuesday he went on live television to say that he had been diagnosed four years ago, does the public need to know I feel the partners he might have infected should have been told? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/83521-charlie-sheen-is-hiv-positive-is-it-in-the-public-interest/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 They have now haven't they? There's a good chance he wouldn't know or remember all his partners. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/83521-charlie-sheen-is-hiv-positive-is-it-in-the-public-interest/#findComment-927564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Of course the public doesn't need to know. It isn't in the public interest. It's just another showbiz story. He'd hushed the story up but was being blackmailed about it. When he realised he couldn't afford to continue to pay his blackmailers he goes public. Unfortunately, shit like this sells these days. People are obsessed with celebrity. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/83521-charlie-sheen-is-hiv-positive-is-it-in-the-public-interest/#findComment-927568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nxjen Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 The reason he went public was that he was being blackmailed by those who had found out. Clearly, the only way to stand up to them was to go public. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/83521-charlie-sheen-is-hiv-positive-is-it-in-the-public-interest/#findComment-927571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 No, none of the public's business. He's obviously had some issues dealing with this over the last few years - as you would. Terrible that he's been left no choice. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/83521-charlie-sheen-is-hiv-positive-is-it-in-the-public-interest/#findComment-927606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonMix Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Very sad and of course nobody's business except those he has slept with and is sleeping with.He was fired from 2.5 men in 2011 the same time he was diagnosed because his behavior was so out of control. It would make sense if the diagnosis is what triggered all of that.It must be hard in these circumstances. I'm pretty sure you are meant to notify everyone you've slept with once you are diagnosed that could have been exposed (so lots of old lovers depending on how long they believe you've been ill and unaware). As a celebrity, doing that exposes you to all kinds of privacy / blackmail issues but equally its a serious public health issue not to. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/83521-charlie-sheen-is-hiv-positive-is-it-in-the-public-interest/#findComment-927627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Palaeologus Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I think it is in the public interest, directly for the thousands of women he has apparently slept with, they all now know to get themselves tested. Ditto the people they have slept with and anybody they may have been otherwise intimate with.Also, it raises the profile of HIV. This does seem to have reduced in profile as it has moved from deadly to chronic in its perceived impact.Charlie Sheen's behaviour to date would seem to signal an entirely selfish motive for the public announcement i.e. to stop being blackmailed by the prostitute he slept with after his HIV diagnosis, however the wider impact could be positive.He is probably now bracing himself for a deluge of legal cases from his sexual partners post diagnosis, claiming physical and/or mental damage. I think Charlie may be seen in many more crap movies and reveal-all documentaries. He will need the cash. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/83521-charlie-sheen-is-hiv-positive-is-it-in-the-public-interest/#findComment-927922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 On a brighter note, what (if any) are your favourite Charlie Sheen movies?As a young'un I loved Young Guns, although his character was a bit of a cock and died pretty early on. And I loved Major League with a young Charlie and Wesley Snipes.Of course the correct answer should be Platoon, but I never really liked war films. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/83521-charlie-sheen-is-hiv-positive-is-it-in-the-public-interest/#findComment-928014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Bob* Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Platoon is a bit hairy chested man-magazine bollocks, like so many other 'Nam flicks. It does feature Tracks of My Tears though, which is a high point. Walls Street is still a hoot, though Sheen is third (fourth?) fiddle. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/83521-charlie-sheen-is-hiv-positive-is-it-in-the-public-interest/#findComment-928022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Bob* Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Wall Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/83521-charlie-sheen-is-hiv-positive-is-it-in-the-public-interest/#findComment-928025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louisa Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I quite liked Scary Movie 3. He played a farmer in it I believe. These pee taking conveyor belt franchises always make me chuckle. Louisa. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/83521-charlie-sheen-is-hiv-positive-is-it-in-the-public-interest/#findComment-928029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Don't really like many of his films. Looking through the list on wikipedia... the bit parts in Ferris Bueller and Being John Malkovich look like the pick of the crop. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/83521-charlie-sheen-is-hiv-positive-is-it-in-the-public-interest/#findComment-928043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratty Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I think it is in the public interest in that I read somewhere that HIV was becoming stigmatised again. High profile people with a positive diagnosis can help re-break down this ridiculous stigma! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/83521-charlie-sheen-is-hiv-positive-is-it-in-the-public-interest/#findComment-928138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I am a Wall Street fan, obviously because "Greed is good" Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/83521-charlie-sheen-is-hiv-positive-is-it-in-the-public-interest/#findComment-928147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alice Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 no stigma in being HIV big stigma in not telling those you have sex with Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/83521-charlie-sheen-is-hiv-positive-is-it-in-the-public-interest/#findComment-928166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blah Blah Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 He has to take responsibility for the risk he puts people at. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/83521-charlie-sheen-is-hiv-positive-is-it-in-the-public-interest/#findComment-928170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malumbu Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 His dad was a better actor, his half brother too? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/83521-charlie-sheen-is-hiv-positive-is-it-in-the-public-interest/#findComment-928172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 malumbu Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> His dad was a better actor, his half brother too?Emilio Estevez and Charlie Sheen are actually brothers (i.e. not half brothers). I think C.S. chose to take his Dad's stage surname, while E.E kept it real. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/83521-charlie-sheen-is-hiv-positive-is-it-in-the-public-interest/#findComment-928182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonMix Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 That's right Jeremy. Charlie Sheen's real name is Carlos Estevez. He didn't mind capitalising off his dad's fame. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/83521-charlie-sheen-is-hiv-positive-is-it-in-the-public-interest/#findComment-928189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 LondonMix Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Very sad and of course nobody's business except> those he has slept with and is sleeping with.> > He was fired from 2.5 men in 2011 the same time he> was diagnosed because his behavior was so out of> control. It would make sense if the diagnosis is> what triggered all of that.> > It must be hard in these circumstances. I'm> pretty sure you are meant to notify everyone> you've slept with once you are diagnosed that> could have been exposed (so lots of old lovers> depending on how long they believe you've been ill> and unaware). As a celebrity, doing that exposes> you to all kinds of privacy / blackmail issues but> equally its a serious public health issue not to.Professionals would do the notifying I'd think.Also Sheen saying no risk of transmission - I assume that's because he was on medication. Heard conflicting arguments about that - i.e. undetectable positive = non infectious.Is it just me that was brought up to assume everybody you sleep with is High Risk- HepB and HepC as well as HIV - until proven otherwise Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/83521-charlie-sheen-is-hiv-positive-is-it-in-the-public-interest/#findComment-928307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonMix Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I'm pretty sure professionals cannot automatically inform current or previous partners. I think they encourage people to do so but you can't inform people about someone else's medical information without their permission in the U.S. It's completely illegal.The CDC estimate 13 percent of people infected are unaware in the U.S. so yes I never assumed anyone was safe growing up. I came of age in the 90s though when the safe sex message was being trumpeted the loudest. In the U.S. 1 in 6 people have genital herpes so that tells you all you need to know about how stringently Americans practice safe sex. It's alarming! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/83521-charlie-sheen-is-hiv-positive-is-it-in-the-public-interest/#findComment-928310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 LondonMix Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> That's right Jeremy. Charlie Sheen's real name is> Carlos Estevez. He didn't mind capitalising off> his dad's fame.Maybe he thought his career would stand a better chance with an Anglocised name? I reckon back then in Hollywood some people still judged a book by the name on it's cover. That's still the case now on sexuality when it comes to A-listers... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/83521-charlie-sheen-is-hiv-positive-is-it-in-the-public-interest/#findComment-928311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonMix Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Maybe but his brother had no issue and started his career before Charlie. It's not a criticism. It's a hard business and it's not wrong to use whatever advantage you've got. He's a talented actor so I'm not suggesting that's the only reason he made it. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/83521-charlie-sheen-is-hiv-positive-is-it-in-the-public-interest/#findComment-928313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Maybe he wanted a clear distinction between him and his brother. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/83521-charlie-sheen-is-hiv-positive-is-it-in-the-public-interest/#findComment-928327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonMix Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Maybe but I doubt it. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/83521-charlie-sheen-is-hiv-positive-is-it-in-the-public-interest/#findComment-928347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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