So.. France v Ireland and Ireland v France

['bout now]

Sorry SP, I always thought Richard Williams was an idiot and that article just goes to strengthen my opinion.

What a load of cobblers, citing Fowler and Di Canio in the same context. As he said national pride and millions of Euros were at stake and if Henry was a "Man" he'd admit that it was an error. Henry played to the whistle, he did not score the goal with his hand. I do not know of one player in world football who would implore the ref to overturn the decision. That article is just an embittered attack on a player that Williams does not like, it's tone is sneering and smug, hardly objective.

The blame for this, as I have said is higher up the chain. Yes the game should be re-played, of course it should. The French seem to want it, Ireland certainly do but it won't because FIFA will again disappear under the wads of cash that dominates every decision they make.

[silverfox]

As my post above, you need instant live replays for the ref to see. So what if it holds the game up a bit.

[matthew123]

LOL about David Ginola jumping on his high horse - if ever there was a cheating Frenchman it was Ginola, he did things that would have made even Robert Pires blush

[Sandperson]

'bout now Wrote:

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> Sorry SP, I always thought Richard Williams was an

> idiot and that article just goes to strengthen my

> opinion.

>

> What a load of cobblers, citing Fowler and Di

> Canio in the same context. As he said national

> pride and millions of Euros were at stake and if

> Henry was a "Man" he'd admit that it was an error.

> Henry played to the whistle, he did not score the

> goal with his hand. I do not know of one player in

> world football who would implore the ref to

> overturn the decision. That article is just an

> embittered attack on a player that Williams does

> not like, it's tone is sneering and smug, hardly

> objective.

>

> The blame for this, as I have said is higher up

> the chain. Yes the game should be re-played, of

> course it should. The French seem to want it,

> Ireland certainly do but it won't because FIFA

> will again disappear under the wads of cash that

> dominates every decision they make.

Fair enough. I enjoyed it as a good read.

[mockney piers]

Noone takes Di Canio's name in vain. A true gentleman.

Except maybe Paul Alcock.

['bout now]

Alcock took a dive, every Owl or Hammer knows that.

[Atila Reincarnate]

matthew123 Wrote:

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> LOL about David Ginola jumping on his high horse -

> if ever there was a cheating Frenchman it was

> Ginola, he did things that would have made even

> Robert Pires blush

Or Steve Gerrard

[Mick Mac]

Bump......

Can't let this fall into the background. Much as Blatter and Platini would like it to.

Hand of Frog on front of Sun this morning.

[Brendan]

Here?s some more righteous indignation from the indy this morning,

?Although the Frenchman has since admitted handling the ball against Ireland on Wednesday, at the time all he was interested in was running around celebrating the goal with his team-mates.

Yet the situation presented him with the perfect opportunity for an act of great sportsmanship - he could have admitted his misdemeanour and entered the ranks of football's great sportsmen.

With this in mind, here's our guide to the ten best acts of sportsmanship.?

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/the-ten-best-acts-of-sportsmanship-1823706.html?action=Popup&ino=10

[mockney piers]

Bloody sun. I invented that one (along with about a million others).

Racist my big fat arse. It's the French for blimmin eck's sake, it's a weird form of affection.

[Atila Reincarnate]

mockney piers Wrote:

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> Bloody sun. I invented that one (along with about

> a million others).

> Racist my big fat arse. It's the French for

> blimmin eck's sake, it's a weird form of

> affection.

Sorry it is racist, we all pooh pooh the lazy use of stereotypical phrases, why is this an exception pray tell? So if this ok then presumably spick is ok as is wop, wog, nigger, pikey, diddycoy, bubble, itie, greasy dago, thick paddy etc. Do you think any of these are acceptable? I certainly don't.

[Brendan]

It's Frenchist and perhaps xenophobic but it is not racist.

Being French is a nationality not a race.

[Mick Mac]

If they call the English the Roast Beef, (which they do) that's unlikley to offend anyone in England, Atila.

Are you suggesting that is racist too. Or is it more of a friendly nickname.

[????]

Why is bubble racists too it's jut ryhming slang for greek?

[Atila Reincarnate]

Frog is hardly a friendly nickname and I'm sure it wasn't used as a term of endearment. Lazy stereotypical racism as far as I'm concerned, not big certainly not clever, but Talkshite were guilty of it on the night of the game as were many tabloids the day after the game. Why descend to that level? Possibly because he's black, and that's what really pisses me off.

[SeanMacGabhann]

Because noone would have come up with those headlines if it was RIbery (say) who scored?

Stop being silly

[Brendan]

That makes perfect sense.

[Atila Reincarnate]

SeanMacGabhann Wrote:

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> Because noone would have come up with those

> headlines if it was RIbery (say) who scored?

>

> Stop being silly

Truth hurts, there is definitely an undertone here which is unpleasant and nasty. If an Irishman had commited the same offence would you be happy with the offender being called a thick Irish Mick by the media? I think you would be screaming from the rooftop and rightly so. It's not being silly at all.

[????]

Was he called a thick french frog then?

[Atila Reincarnate]

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> Was he called a thick french frog then?

Behave, don't shit stir, you know what I mean, that's if you've got the intelligence I credit you with.

[silverfox]

Did I mention instant TV replays?

[Mick Mac]

Atila Reincarnate Wrote:

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>

> Truth hurts, there is definitely an undertone here

> which is unpleasant and nasty. If an Irishman had

> commited the same offence would you be happy with

> the offender being called a thick Irish Mick by

> the media? I think you would be screaming from

> the rooftop and rightly so. It's not being silly

> at all.

RIGHT, THAT'S IT - OUTSIDE NOW!

MICK

[Brendan]

You do realise it?s because you?re black don?t you Mick.

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

Has Mick been watching The Commitments again?

[mockney piers]

My French boss has been mercilessly ribbing my Irish colleagues.

He would never in a million years be offended by the use of frog, any more than I would by (as mm points out) rosbif.

Although strictly speaking I am a spic.

In all fairness to Guillaume he is pretty appalled by the goal, but he's a piss taking type.

There are genuine battles to be fought regards racism, this isn't one of them.