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I personally would like to see Capital Punishment reintroduced as there is no significant detterant avaliabile now that might stop someone commiting murder, and i don't want to see my taxes go towards keeping these people alive and in jail.

Before all the cry babies start i will state some facts.

Britain effectively abolished capital punishment in 1965, the rate of murders in 1964 were 0.68 per 100,00 of the population now they are about 1.42 per 100,000 of the population a more than double rise.

Home office figures show unlawfull killings were 300 in 1964, 833 in 2004 and 734 in 2007.

Statistics kept by the Home office for the 5 year period between 1964 and 1969 show a 125% rise in murders that would have attracted a death sentance.

Okay.

Goverment analysis of the criminal situation between 1900 and the outbreak of the Second World War in 1939 points to the death penalty being a detterant to commiting criminal murders but not domestic murders,a criminal thinking of a planned robbery would think and plan ahead to avoid the consequences of murder, where as in domestic murder it would usually be non planned and happen in the heat of the moment.

The most compelling argument against capital punishment is of course the fact that innocent people may be executed, however i think execution would be appropiate when the evidence against the individual is so compelling and compact that there is no chance the accused is actually innocent and with the use of dna now days it would be certainly easier to prove innocence or guilt.

A 2005 survey(not to sure who they are) found that out of 1118 respondants 2/3 of thenm wanted the death penatly brought back, unfortunately due to our membership of the Eu and our commitment to the European Convention on Human Rights we are held back by those other people so politically it would be hard to reintroduce.

All the money wasted on keeping people inside for murders could be used for other more important social projects,sadly its seems that we will have to accept the high level of crimes and murders till a time arises when the people have had enough and force the goverment to implement the changes.

Here's that Panama again, getting us all riled up about an effective deterrent to ensuring no one ever commits murder.

'Pon my Sam, I'll swing for him so I will.

Actually I won't really, Pan so don't worry, even if you ever get to a political position where you might enact legislation that would reintroduce capital punishment, it's hardly likely I'll ever be in the dock accused of yours or anyone else's murder.

So, as you were.

But overall, a rotten stinking idea. Murder is wrong, judicial murder is no better.

Personal vengeance...now that's a different matter.

panama Wrote:

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> with the use of dna now days it would be certainly

> easier to prove innocence or guilt.


Wonderful stuff that DNA. There's enough in a discarded cigarette butt, a wad of chewing gum, a used tissue or even the rim of a glass someone has drunk from to place them at the scene of any crime - with a little malicious aforethought.

panama Wrote:

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> I personally would like to see Capital Punishment

> reintroduced as there is no significant detterant

> avaliabile now that might stop someone commiting

> murder, and i don't want to see my taxes go

> towards keeping these people alive and in jail.

> Before all the cry babies start i will state some

> facts.

> Britain effectively abolished capital punishment

> in 1965, the rate of murders in 1964 were 0.68 per

> 100,00 of the population now they are about 1.42

> per 100,000 of the population a more than double

> rise.

> Home office figures show unlawfull killings were

> 300 in 1964, 833 in 2004 and 734 in 2007.

> Statistics kept by the Home office for the 5 year

> period between 1964 and 1969 show a 125% rise in

> murders that would have attracted a death

> sentance.

> Okay.

> Goverment analysis of the criminal situation

> between 1900 and the outbreak of the Second World

> War in 1939 points to the death penalty being a

> detterant to commiting criminal murders but not

> domestic murders,a criminal thinking of a planned

> robbery would think and plan ahead to avoid the

> consequences of murder, where as in domestic

> murder it would usually be non planned and happen

> in the heat of the moment.

> The most compelling argument against capital

> punishment is of course the fact that innocent

> people may be executed, however i think execution

> would be appropiate when the evidence against the

> individual is so compelling and compact that there

> is no chance the accused is actually innocent and

> with the use of dna now days it would be certainly

> easier to prove innocence or guilt.

> A 2005 survey(not to sure who they are) found that

> out of 1118 respondants 2/3 of thenm wanted the

> death penatly brought back, unfortunately due to

> our membership of the Eu and our commitment to the

> European Convention on Human Rights we are held

> back by those other people so politically it would

> be hard to reintroduce.

> All the money wasted on keeping people inside for

> murders could be used for other more important

> social projects,sadly its seems that we will have

> to accept the high level of crimes and murders

> till a time arises when the people have had enough

> and force the goverment to implement the changes.



What is the penalty for murdering the English language?

Santerme Wrote:

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> What is the penalty for murdering the English

> language?


CAPITAL punishment is the only way surely.

Anyone found guilty of maliciously with malice aforethought and prior knowledge before the fact knowingly assaulting a paragragh should be sentenced to deth.

Taken from this plaice and well, hung.

It'd save the burden on the syntax payers.

Santerme Wrote:

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> What is the penalty for murdering the English

> language?


Do you mean murder in same the same way as I could murder a curry right now or in the same way as the last 8 miles of traffic were murder?

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