Re-introduction of Capital Punishment

[panama]

I personally would like to see Capital Punishment reintroduced as there is no significant detterant avaliabile now that might stop someone commiting murder, and i don't want to see my taxes go towards keeping these people alive and in jail.

Before all the cry babies start i will state some facts.

Britain effectively abolished capital punishment in 1965, the rate of murders in 1964 were 0.68 per 100,00 of the population now they are about 1.42 per 100,000 of the population a more than double rise.

Home office figures show unlawfull killings were 300 in 1964, 833 in 2004 and 734 in 2007.

Statistics kept by the Home office for the 5 year period between 1964 and 1969 show a 125% rise in murders that would have attracted a death sentance.

Okay.

Goverment analysis of the criminal situation between 1900 and the outbreak of the Second World War in 1939 points to the death penalty being a detterant to commiting criminal murders but not domestic murders,a criminal thinking of a planned robbery would think and plan ahead to avoid the consequences of murder, where as in domestic murder it would usually be non planned and happen in the heat of the moment.

The most compelling argument against capital punishment is of course the fact that innocent people may be executed, however i think execution would be appropiate when the evidence against the individual is so compelling and compact that there is no chance the accused is actually innocent and with the use of dna now days it would be certainly easier to prove innocence or guilt.

A 2005 survey(not to sure who they are) found that out of 1118 respondants 2/3 of thenm wanted the death penatly brought back, unfortunately due to our membership of the Eu and our commitment to the European Convention on Human Rights we are held back by those other people so politically it would be hard to reintroduce.

All the money wasted on keeping people inside for murders could be used for other more important social projects,sadly its seems that we will have to accept the high level of crimes and murders till a time arises when the people have had enough and force the goverment to implement the changes.

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

I personally would like to see new trolls have a look at old threads where this has already been covered.

[thebestnameshavegone]

Someone's gone and posted their GCSE humanities homework on the internet.

*hope no-one bothers rising to this again*

[Santerme]

Certainly an issue that has been done to death...

Ps, it is never going to be reintroduced.

[PeckhamRose]

But if it were I'd take as many of you with me, you can only execute me ONCE.

[panama]

well excuse me for my attempts at starting a new thread i was unaware that this had been previously covered as i am a new member.

PS.Give it ten years.

[HonaloochieB]

Here's that Panama again, getting us all riled up about an effective deterrent to ensuring no one ever commits murder.

'Pon my Sam, I'll swing for him so I will.

Actually I won't really, Pan so don't worry, even if you ever get to a political position where you might enact legislation that would reintroduce capital punishment, it's hardly likely I'll ever be in the dock accused of yours or anyone else's murder.

So, as you were.

But overall, a rotten stinking idea. Murder is wrong, judicial murder is no better.

Personal vengeance...now that's a different matter.

[HAL9000]

panama Wrote:

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> with the use of dna now days it would be certainly

> easier to prove innocence or guilt.

Wonderful stuff that DNA. There's enough in a discarded cigarette butt, a wad of chewing gum, a used tissue or even the rim of a glass someone has drunk from to place them at the scene of any crime - with a little malicious aforethought.

[woofmarkthedog]

The wind up merchant that he is "Ooo, I could kill him"

W**F

[Santerme]

panama Wrote:

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> I personally would like to see Capital Punishment

> reintroduced as there is no significant detterant

> avaliabile now that might stop someone commiting

> murder, and i don't want to see my taxes go

> towards keeping these people alive and in jail.

> Before all the cry babies start i will state some

> facts.

> Britain effectively abolished capital punishment

> in 1965, the rate of murders in 1964 were 0.68 per

> 100,00 of the population now they are about 1.42

> per 100,000 of the population a more than double

> rise.

> Home office figures show unlawfull killings were

> 300 in 1964, 833 in 2004 and 734 in 2007.

> Statistics kept by the Home office for the 5 year

> period between 1964 and 1969 show a 125% rise in

> murders that would have attracted a death

> sentance.

> Okay.

> Goverment analysis of the criminal situation

> between 1900 and the outbreak of the Second World

> War in 1939 points to the death penalty being a

> detterant to commiting criminal murders but not

> domestic murders,a criminal thinking of a planned

> robbery would think and plan ahead to avoid the

> consequences of murder, where as in domestic

> murder it would usually be non planned and happen

> in the heat of the moment.

> The most compelling argument against capital

> punishment is of course the fact that innocent

> people may be executed, however i think execution

> would be appropiate when the evidence against the

> individual is so compelling and compact that there

> is no chance the accused is actually innocent and

> with the use of dna now days it would be certainly

> easier to prove innocence or guilt.

> A 2005 survey(not to sure who they are) found that

> out of 1118 respondants 2/3 of thenm wanted the

> death penatly brought back, unfortunately due to

> our membership of the Eu and our commitment to the

> European Convention on Human Rights we are held

> back by those other people so politically it would

> be hard to reintroduce.

> All the money wasted on keeping people inside for

> murders could be used for other more important

> social projects,sadly its seems that we will have

> to accept the high level of crimes and murders

> till a time arises when the people have had enough

> and force the goverment to implement the changes.

What is the penalty for murdering the English language?

[Atila Reincarnate]

Oh hang it all, haven't we had enough of this topic?

[matthew123]

Aye it's bit like the Football thread innit..

I think some crimes do deserve capital punishment - but can we always be sure that the conviction is 100% safe, that would be my concern.

[daizie]

i wouldnt worry,it would be one less person to worry about

[Atila Reincarnate]

daizie Wrote:

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> i wouldnt worry,it would be one less person to

> worry about

Fair enough

[HonaloochieB]

Santerme Wrote:

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> What is the penalty for murdering the English

> language?

CAPITAL punishment is the only way surely.

Anyone found guilty of maliciously with malice aforethought and prior knowledge before the fact knowingly assaulting a paragragh should be sentenced to deth.

Taken from this plaice and well, hung.

It'd save the burden on the syntax payers.

[giggirl]

Panama,

The only thing that you have EVER posted about on this forum is crime and punishment. There's more to life you know. Get one.

[matthew123]

One of my favourite books that

[giggirl]

Me too Matthew - I read it a lifetime ago though. It should definitely be required reading for our OP but I fear OP is more Daily Mail than Dostoevsky.

[Brendan]

Santerme Wrote:

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> What is the penalty for murdering the English

> language?

Do you mean murder in same the same way as I could murder a curry right now or in the same way as the last 8 miles of traffic were murder?

[Santerme]

Well I did murder fruit de mer not to long ago

Hopefully the crossing back from Cherbourg will not be murder

[mockney piers]

You had me on 'before all the cry babies start'.

Priceless.

[Mick Mac]

Meat is murder - save the vegetarians - hang everyone else.

[giggirl]

Is that you Mozza?

[bignumber5]

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> Meat is murder - save the vegetarians - hang

> everyone else.

Save meat - eat a vegetarian

[daizie]

After reading about the killer Peter Tobin being 'brought to justice' . I think the option should be given to the parents of the victims .