Neighbours that smoke

[giggirl]

On a tangent - I'm spending Christmas in a smoking house in Sydenham but I don't care if I do smell of smoke because I've had my internet order cancelled for lack of stock so no georgeous stunning red crepe dress for me. Nothing to wear.

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giggirl Wrote:

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> On a tangent - I'm spending Christmas in a smoking

> house in Sydenham but I don't care if I do smell

> of smoke because I've had my internet order

> cancelled for lack of stock so no georgeous

> stunning red crepe dress for me. Nothing to wear.

Hope the heating's on....

[Alg]

Hey Jah Lush

With that tone I am surprised you have any neighbours

[SeanMacGabhann]

Giggirl has already answered for me

I know some countries have already gone down a smoking in your own home can be prohibited route, but I wouldn't like to see it here

[Alg]

Maybe I should just rent the flat out to drug addicts who like to play loud musical instruments.

My point is that there needs to be a point of comprimise.

[giggirl]

pinocchio Wrote:

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> Maybe I should just rent the flat out to drug

> addicts who like to play loud musical

> instruments.

>

> My point is that there needs to be a point of

> comprimise.

Pinocchio - this thread has gone on long enough for you, as the OP, to be saying what that compromise should be. You came on here asking for advice and you've received some really good advice. The bottom line is that your neighbours do not need to compromise and any "give" on their part will be voluntary and entirely dependent upon your diplomatic skills.

Frankly that last comment you made was appalling and if you go to your neighbours with that sort of attitude they will no doubt shut the door in your face and I wouldn?t blame them.

[Alg]

That is my point, the neighbours don't need to compromise, but in that case neither should I if it didn't suit me. hence my comment.

I agree that most the advice has been useful, except for a few comments made by certain individuals, again the reason why I made my point.

Either way, thanks to you all for the useful advise provided. I have managed to get a few quotes from joiners and carpenters who will start the work at the begining of the new year.

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

Pinocchio, have you ever considered that by having wooden floors you are almost certainly pissing off your downstairs neighbours bigtime? Also have you checked the terms of your lease - most contain a clause that require carpet, at the least, as soundproofing measures.

[Alg]

Peckhamgatecrasher Wrote:

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> Pinocchio, have you ever considered that by having

> wooden floors you are almost certainly pissing off

> your downstairs neighbours bigtime? Also have you

> checked the terms of your lease - most contain a

> clause that require carpet, at the least, as

> soundproofing measures.

Hi

Yes I have, but as the wooden floors are carpeted everywhere except the bedroom and bathroom it's not actually Peeing them off.

They too have wooden floors and like to walk with high heels on, which makes a loud noise when they walk, but we compromise.

The lease does not stipulate not having wooden floors. However if need be we can add that to the lease with a no smoking clause then we can all be happy.

[TillieTrotter]

I was actually going to make that point PGC!

[giggirl]

> The lease does not stipulate not having wooden

> floors. However if need be we can add that to the

> lease with a no smoking clause then we can all be

> happy.

No you wouldn't all be happy because your neighbours are smokers. For compromise to be successful you need to understand the other person's perspective and I don't think your grasping it.

[Alg]

I am grasping the concept as I am a musician, and I don't play music, which they don't like, at home or at awkeward times of the day.

it's just common courtesy to respect others

[daizie]

As an ex-smoker i love the smell of cigarettes and will often follow someone along the road who is smoking, ahh if only i could have a marlboro light

[Jah Lush]

GG is right you haven't grasped the concept at all. I think you're coming across as very a selfish individual.

[giggirl]

pinocchio Wrote:

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> I am grasping the concept as I am a musician, and

> I don't play music, which they don't like, at home

> or at awkeward times of the day.

>

> it's just common courtesy to respect others

Your neighbours are NOT disrespecting you. They are not smoking to annoy you or disrespect you; they are smoking because they are smokers.

[Keef]

I really wish the neighbours would come on and give their side of the story.

[daizie]

or give me a fag..

[TillieTrotter]

I'm sure their side of the story is, it's my home, I'm a smoker, I'll be fucked if I'm standing outside in the cold (or otherwise) to smoke!

[Keef]

I'll give you one daizie. Arf arf arf.

[Alg]

Hey Guys

I have the information I need on how to insulate my flat, thanks for all your comments.

This is where I step out as the topic I started has diverted into a different direction.

Happy Holidays

[giggirl]

Daizie - how long since you quit?

I quit 8 years ago and it takes a long long long time to stop wanting to smoke. Even now - rarely - mainly when I've had some booze - I'll still want one.

I smoked for over 20 years and I will say that life is better without the fags. It's hard to stop though. I had a friend to give up with and it made all the difference to have someone to call and rant at. Maybe some of you ED smokers should get together and give up?

[Bluerevolution]

WHAT? We can't even smoke on forum now?

[giggirl]

NO - it's giving me cancer.

[Bluerevolution]

That will be the radiation from your screen

[Jah Lush]

pinocchio Wrote:

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> Hey Guys

>

> I have the information I need on how to insulate

> my flat, thanks for all your comments.

>

> This is where I step out as the topic I started

> has diverted into a different direction.

>

> Happy Holidays

Not the direction you wanted it to go in then.

Yeah - happy holidays to you too.

I'm off out for quick fag in the freezing bloody cold. And, if I stub it out on the pavement I could be liable for an ?80 fine. Where's an ashtray when you need one? Fortunately, I do when I remember to carry a stubbie to put them out in.