Louisa Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 http://www.timeout.com/london/blog/12-reasons-to-visit-lordship-lane-east-dulwich-se22-030416Seems a shame they have decided not to reflect upon on the retail heritage of the area. Most of the businesses they pick are relatively recent. Some of the shops on LL, trading for decades, which should I would argue should deserve a mention, did not get one. But a chain cinema did? Hmm. Louisa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Agree re ToastED.Give and Take has gone.Don't see why they should mention anything just because it's been there a long time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxi Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 "Easy D"? Oh do fwck off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 At least half the chosen businesses are 5+ years. Stop being such a permanent force for negativity Louisa. Noone cared about ED 20 years ago and it's the new outlets that make it attractive. It's attractive to wider London and that's cool, so take it on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 What's the cut off point for east dulwich authenticity...10 years, 20, more? At what point does someone stop being a 'blow in'? Must you have been born here?The Easy D thing is awful and the only other place I've ever heard it is in a previous Time Out article. It's all a bit "stop trying to make fetch happen". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Mick Mac Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Noone cared about ED 20 years ago.Nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phobic3000 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 It says The Bishop has a rear bar dedicated to whisky... Has it? That's news to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 They need a slap for calling it Easy D. Twats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louisa Posted March 7, 2016 Author Share Posted March 7, 2016 Mick Mac Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> At least half the chosen businesses are 5+ years.> > > Stop being such a permanent force for negativity> Louisa. Noone cared about ED 20 years ago and it's> the new outlets that make it attractive. It's> attractive to wider London and that's cool, so> take it on board.No one cared about ED 20+ years ago? Oh apart from the people who lived there, had family there, worked there, raised kids there. Could afford to purchase a property there.The new outlets that make it 'attractive' only came here because of the demographic change and rising house prices, they wouldn't have bothered otherwise. Businesses are not charities, they go where they can make money. Louisa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Bob* Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 How long ago was it that Time Out ceased to have any kind of relevance? I still miss Loot, myself. As usual, they shot the wrong Beatle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Whoever wrote that has probably never been to ED, they've just working from instagram pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Jeremy Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Whoever wrote that has probably never been to ED,> they've just working from instagram pics.Exactly... Foxy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveR Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 "Seems a shame they have decided not to reflect upon on the retail heritage of the area."Except that's not what the purpose of the article is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 I hadn't even heard of East Dulwich 20 years ago. What retail heritage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Mick Mac Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I hadn't even heard of East Dulwich 20 years ago.> What retail heritage?Here's a bit of real East Dulwich Heritage.. .. Nico Ladenis is a self-taught chef, and did not attend any culinary schools. .. Whilst working at his restaurant Chez Nico in Dulwich, London in 1976 or 1977 he met fellow chef Michel Roux at a party, who arranged for him to work for a week at the three Michelin star Moulin de Mougins under Roger Verg?That was 40 years ago..Oh there was also a Walworths and a REAL Cinema..Foxy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edcam Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 People did care about ED 20 years ago. It didn't have anything like the choice that it does now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard tudor Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 It did have have choices that people wanted 20 years who lived in the area but not the precious choices the new residents want now.Not much has changed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 I remember coming to ED 20 years ago - a mate lived in a student house round here. It was fine, and had the basic ameneties you'd need, but honestly... it was basically the cheapest place within striking distance of central London, that wasn't a complete crap-hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 I moved to East Dulwich in 1980.. I told people I had moved to Dulwich.. They would reply.. "You don't live in Dulwich. You live in EAST Dulwich" No one say that any more.. Foxy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louisa Posted March 7, 2016 Author Share Posted March 7, 2016 ED had all the usual butchers bakers and candle stick makers 30/40 years ago. And as others have said, they suited the people living here then. It tends to only be the snobs and blow in's who claim the area was crap before they arrived, just because it suits their own ends. Some of the best businesses are survivors from those times, a few of the curry houses and certainly A J Farmers. Not a single mention for any of them in this article. Louisa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 I love A J Farmers, but if I was to name the 12 reasons to visit LL for a magazine, it wouldn't make the cut. Nor would any of the curry houses. The Cheese Block and Franklins, both been around for a couple of decades, made the cut and quite rightly.I thought it was a decent article, the inclusion of "Give and Take" and the vomit-inducing use of "Easy D" notwithstanding.Sometimes, Louisa, I think you're only ever happy when you're miserable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Louisa - it's not a "guide" to Lordship Lane, it's "reasons to visit"When I say no one was interested I mean people from other areas - I think that is true. LL now attracts external visitors as the article points out. No-one is saying it wasn't functional 20 years ago, that's exactly the way I'd describe it when I moved here 16 years ago - but there probably were not a lot of reasons to visit it, whereas now there are.I think its good to have timeout highlighting the better offerings. Should we be proud that they are on our doorstep? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Have you ever even read Time Out? AJ Farmers... FFS.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Bob* Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Time Out's annual "Best Place In London To Buy Inexpensive Plastic Food Storage Containers And Disposable Picnic Cutlery" round-up is legendary, Jeremy. I also enjoy the Guardian feature - "Let's Move To XXXXX And Buy Inexpensive Plastic Food Storage Containers And Disposable Picnic Cutlery" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louisa Posted March 7, 2016 Author Share Posted March 7, 2016 I promise I'm not being negative, it's more disappointment. I understand what Time Out is all about, and tbh it doesn't even do that very well anymore (bit washed up some would argue). The offerings you allude to Mick Mac are hardly worthy of a whole article. One persons posh grub served on a pine cone is another persons 'plastic food storage container', as *Bob* so eloquently puts it. Maybe I'm wrong on this one, but I just think some long standing businesses deserve a break, after all - they're survivors! They have survived rent increases demographic changes and rising and falling fashion trends. I mean FFS one of the businesses mentioned in this article closed down last year! You couldn't make this crap up! Louisa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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