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Mugged at knifepoint near Greendale (Aug 2nd 2017)

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Musiquepiano
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Joined: 27 Jul 2015, 16:08

Just want to warn everyone who uses the alleyway approaching the Green Dale by the Dulwich Hamlet Football Club.
This evening roughly around 6pm I was mugged with a knife and the black man stole my phone.

Please take extra caution when you walk there.
KrackersMaracas
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Thanks for posting MP - hope you are ok, not harmed, not too shaken?
Musiquepiano
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Thanks, just a scratch on my hand. Pretty shaken but I am glad that I wasn't with my little girl with me.
Robert Poste's Child
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You poor thing, how horrible. Hopefully the police can use the CCTV cameras in the area to get an image of the person responsible.
Abe_froeman
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I really hope you have reported this to the police. A scratch is bad enough but the perpetrator must be stopped before they harm someone even more seriously.
Musiquepiano
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The police was called but nothing they can do. No camera surrounding area. The path to the Greendale really needs more security improved...
Nigello
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The police can do something - even if it is only to add it to our build up a database. It is great that you reported it. Would a more detailed description help?
JohnL
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Of course the police have a database and a crime map.

Did they drive you around looking for the guy - at least it makes you feel they care although I've never heard of one being caught.
MAK
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really sorry to hear this. how frightening. :(
Robert Poste's Child
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When I was cycling through there a few days ago I thought the vegetation was badly in need of cutting back to give you better visibility of who else is on the path.
Nigello
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RP Child - Southwark is hit and miss on this. Some roads - Barry, for example - have the big trees cut right back, even at the base where the new twigs sprout, but other places are left to grow like topsy. Ring the enviro line - 020 7525 2000 - and ask them to keep it in check, if it is indeed Southwark's responsibility.
Ginster
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Sorry to hear this and glad you were not seriously harmed.
Worrying to hear as I'll be using that regularly soon on school drop offs, not something you want to hear about and 6pm is not late or dark either. It's really a prime spot if you think about it as it's like a dead end then an overgrown pathway. I have messaged James Barber in case anything can be done re CCTV or something to improve security.
EPB
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6pm may not be dark now, but that won't last long.
eastdulwichhenry
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I understand there was a meeting last week to discuss this issue, and whether anything more could be done to make people feel secure on those footpaths. Please could anyone report back here on what was decided?

Thanks.
Robert Poste's Child
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It's in the thread about the meeting, here: http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum ... ?5,1859579
stantonb
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The black man?
Sue
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stantonb Wrote:
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> The black man?


It's a description.
stantonb
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Quite a broad description, Susan. Should we be wary of every black man we spot in East Dulwich from now on then? Incase the black man has a knife?
KidKruger
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All descriptions of perpetrators should include passport no. and DNA profile.
Anything else, ie. not specifying name, exact height, brand and colour of clothing, shoe size, and inside leg measurement is simply generalising.
Imagine warning people about a mugger and only providing the details you managed to observe during the attack, perish the thought of such an ill-informed and badly thought out approach to raising awareness.
stantonb
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If the only detail you could pick out during the mugging was the fact that it was a black man then that's not very helpful. Try going to the police and say you got mugged. The police will most likely ask for a description and you'll be like 'well he was black and a man'. Cheers buddy, that really narrows it down.

What's the point in even saying it was a black man when that literally doesn't help at all. Would you have said it was a white guy if it was a white guy who took your phone? Of course you would. I'm very sympathetic towards the victim. But find it very odd the way that was worded and slipped in st the end of the post.

Kidkruger, I see what you tried there but it wasn't funny. Good effort though.
rendelharris
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stantonb, yes it was a slightly undesirable turn of phrase, but the OP had been mugged a short while before at knifepoint - I'm sure anyone who's been bored with my posts on here can tell you I'm tiresomely politically correct but in this instance maybe cut him/her a little slack, under the circumstances?
Robert Poste's Child
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Not sure the OP was offering that as a complete description, but in any case when you're the victim of a crime, particularly a violent one, it can be surprisingly hard to remember anything but the most obvious things about the aggressor. I believe the OP is also not a native English speaker so in what must have been a very stressful situation they might not be able to think of another way to say what they wanted to. Please don't turn the perpetrator into the victim here.
Sue
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stantonb Wrote:

Would you
> have said it was a white guy if it was a white guy
> who took your phone? Of course you would.


Yes, and people on here have done in similar circumstances.

ETA: And I am unclear why you have called me Susan above.
Sean Of Dulwich
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hiya a the entrance of the ally they hve a camera there now so maybe worth tring to find out if they got a pic of this scum bag
tigerranks
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Joined: 02 Dec 2016, 17:47

it would seem that this alley has insufficient lighting and in the winter months is rather dark has anybody contacted the council or contacted the police in reference to this as this is a on going problem for as long as i have lived in the area surely some responsibility is with the council we all pay our council taxes and have rights

maybe its about time a petition was started about getting some CCTV along there maybe a long shot but nothing tried nothing gained

i know it is a good Short cut but maybe this alley is best avoided in the dark evenings
Musiquepiano
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Hi,
I haven't been checking here recently as my daughter hadn't been well lately.

First of all I apologies if i didn't give you clear description. I should thought carefully about the description when I posted here but I simply wanted to warn others as it happened at day light in Aug. I did not mean to offend anyone really. It was simply what I could remember. Unfortunately like some of you have guessed I was horrified and shocked when the man showed me his knife and put against my arm. He was trying to chat me up only 5 seconds ago as he approached me. The man was gaining some time for a passer to walk away...

He was wearing a typical hooded jumper and yes I do remember he was a slim build, tall black man but obviously this does not help. When you are attacked out of blue it is so hard. Hopefully it anything like this happens next time I will do much better job! It took me a good two months to recover psychologically but I have channeled my energy towards something more positive and organised a meeting which you might have noticed. I am very grateful for all your support here.

If anyone is interested in the safety of Geendale/Foot path then please follow the link below where you can check latest news. I will keep updating in due course.

http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum ... ?5,1859579
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