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messageCycle Route to Elephant and Castle
Posted by Nick1962 20 February, 2012 11:52

I have recently aquired a new bike and want to cycle into Lordsip Lane daily from my home in Waterloo. I heard that there is a dis-used track/canal/trainline that links East Dulwich to Elephant and Castle, popular with walkers and cyclists alike. Can anyone tell me where this is please or even if it exists?

messageRe: Cycle Route to Elephant and Castle
Posted by henryb 20 February, 2012 12:02

There is the old canal route from Peckham to Burgess Park, then you can cycle through the park - that would get you quite close, from there just go down Portland Street to get to Elephant and Castle.

messageRe: Cycle Route to Elephant and Castle
Posted by henryb 20 February, 2012 12:05

It is cycle route 22 I think.

messageRe: Cycle Route to Elephant and Castle
Posted by Nick1962 20 February, 2012 12:43

Thanks for that. I'll look for it in the morning. Do we know if the park is open at the moment?

messageRe: Cycle Route to Elephant and Castle
Posted by taper 20 February, 2012 13:42

Park opens in june

messageRe: Cycle Route to Elephant and Castle
Posted by iheartED2 20 February, 2012 15:32

didn't know that this existed. I will try it out. thanks!

messageRe: Cycle Route to Elephant and Castle
Posted by henryb 20 February, 2012 17:00

At the Peckham end it starts from the pedestrian area by the library. Route 22 actually continues onto London Bridge but you can turn left into Burgess park (if it is open) a lot nicer than going along roads.

messageRe: Cycle Route to Elephant and Castle
Posted by ironjawcannon 20 February, 2012 19:31

Do get the TFL cycle guides. They are free and give good alternatives to busy routes making cycling a joy! [www.tfl.gov.uk]

messageRe: Cycle Route to Elephant and Castle
Posted by Applespider 20 February, 2012 19:47

Not to dampen your enthusiasm but I seem to recall that there have been some worrying posts reported here with regards to that route. Nasty experiences in the evenings for cyclists with group of youths attempting to push them off, stick things through their spokes or put a rope across the path so they can nick their valuables. Might be safer waiting for the lighter nights before taking that particular cut through; it's a lovely route at weekends and during the day. Having said that, I can't recall any recently so perhaps the problems have stopped.

messageRe: Cycle Route to Elephant and Castle
Posted by benmorg 20 February, 2012 20:12

If you can stomach Dog Kennel Hill, I recommend this route: Camberwell Grove, Benhill Road, Wells Way, Portland Street, Elephant. No dark parks or disused canal paths, no hoodies, no main roads after the hill, and amazingly little traffic.

messageRe: Cycle Route to Elephant and Castle
Posted by katanita 20 February, 2012 20:12

I mapped the route onto google a while back [maps.google.com]. Whilst the park is closed I'm going Wells Way - Southampton Way - Peckham Rd (briefly, to turn right) - Lyndhurst Way, which is fine, and probably quicker than the park anyway.

Never had any unpleasantness on the route, but I've never gone that way in the dark. I definitely wouldn't cycle through the park at night.

messageRe: Cycle Route to Elephant and Castle
Posted by taper 20 February, 2012 20:59

Never had any trouble in 7 years on the canal path or Burgess Park, running or cycling. I am 17st and well weapon though.

messageRe: Cycle Route to Elephant and Castle
Posted by jimmyraj 20 February, 2012 21:31

Quote:
Not to dampen your enthusiasm but I seem to recall that there have been some worrying posts reported here with regards to that route. Nasty experiences in the evenings for cyclists with group of youths attempting to push them off, stick things through their spokes or put a rope across the path so they can nick their valuables. Might be safer waiting for the lighter nights before taking that particular cut through; it's a lovely route at weekends and during the day. Having said that, I can't recall any recently so perhaps the problems have stopped.

Cycled that route for a couple of years and never seen any sign of 'ropes across the path' etc - sounds like an urban scare story. Usual common sense rules apply and there are always exceptions with groups of young lads etc, but never experienced any myself. If you'd rather avoid the canal route, I take the Southampton Way, Wells Way, Portland Way route. Always been fine for me. Enjoy the brutalist sixties architecture on the way!

messageRe: Cycle Route to Elephant and Castle
Posted by benmorg 20 February, 2012 23:13

Quote from a few years ago

"I was attacked cycling across Burgess Park after dark a couple of years ago. Two guys swung a scaffold pole at my face and tried to steal my bike. I think it's only because I was "clipped in", wearing shoes with cleats that attach to my pedals, that I didn't come off the bike immediately and rolled into a better-lit section of path, where they didn't chase me. It wasn't a pleasant experience and I needed a bit of surgery to put my nose back together. After that I kept to the roads: I'd rather be able to see the dangers I face when cycling! "

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messageRe: Cycle Route to Elephant and Castle
Posted by trizza 21 February, 2012 10:19

I cycle everday along the canal path. It's absolutely fine IMO and there are lots of people using it using commuting hours.

Personally, I avoid Burgess Park - which is where the attack referred to above took place.

messageRe: Cycle Route to Elephant and Castle
Posted by henryb 21 February, 2012 11:01

I suppose you have to make your own judgement - I expect the risk of being attacked in a park is less than the risk of being hit by a vehicle if you went on the road.

messageRe: Cycle Route to Elephant and Castle
Posted by Nick1962 21 February, 2012 15:55

Many thanks for that... summer nights only I guess!

messageRe: Cycle Route to Elephant and Castle
Posted by embellina 21 February, 2012 19:01

If you're after a middle-ground sort of route that avoids busy Southampton Way, I recommend going through the housing estates.

Here's a map: [g.co]

At the bottom of Lyndhurst Way, head straight across to go down Kelly Avenue. (the road has a barrier but space for cycles down each side). Turn left at the bottom on to Commercial Way, then hang the (third I think) right into Chandler Way. Again there are some bollards on the road's entrance but not a problem for bikes.

Then it's straight down to St George's Way, turn left and then right at the lights.

Not as fast as just going down Southampton Way, but it's much quieter which, to me, is more pleasant. You can get a clear run without dodging buses and weaving round traffic jams (though it does get busy along St George's Way waiting for the lights)

messageRe: Cycle Route to Elephant and Castle
Posted by benmorg 21 February, 2012 19:41

This is a great route from ED station to Waterloo Bridge, avoiding main roads, the Elephant & Castle roundabout, and any unlit parks or footpaths.

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Getting up dog kennel hill is hard work, but coming down Camberwell Grove on the otherwise is completely effortless all the way down.

messageRe: Cycle Route to Elephant and Castle
Posted by Happy Cyclist 21 February, 2012 21:21

Second Benmorg's route, cycle it most days. I must admit I start after Dog Kennel Hill though, tough slog but great for the glutes smiling smiley

messageRe: Cycle Route to Elephant and Castle
Posted by jimmyay 23 February, 2012 19:18

i've used Burgess Park for a couple of years ,daily on my commute to and from work. at the moment much of the park is shut so the cut through is shorter. however i have never experienced any problems. On dark winter nights i tend to go as quickly as possible, however - it's unlit and rather spooky but i woudln't say i've ever seen troublemakers around.

messageRe: Cycle Route to Elephant and Castle
Posted by nununoolio 24 February, 2012 00:48

There were problems on Surrey Canal Walk but they were two and a half years ago with the perpetrators being arrested.
Instead of cutting through Burgess Park, just continue using the cycle route on Glengall Road, crossing the Old Kent Rd then cutting across towards the Borough and Waterloo.


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