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messagePetition for a Wetherspoons
Posted by Loutwo July 03, 03:39PM

I would like to gauge reaction to a proposed petition to J D Wetherspoon to take over and use one of the existing pubs in the local area, so that we have a more affordable option for local people.

All the recent threads about expensive meals and drinks with prices just continuing to rise seems to me ridiculous. For any sort of affordable pub option (with food as a side), we need to venture over the hill to Camberwell, down to Peckham, or upto Forest Hill.

What would local opinions be about a petition to get them to consider this area? I remember the power of the forum over getting M&S to open up, and I think with enough support we could encourage Wetherspoons to consider the neighbourhood.

Thoughts?

Louisa.

messageRe: Petition for a Wetherspoons
Posted by seenbeen July 03, 04:11PM

Is there a pub large enough? All the Wethers I have been to have been very large. The only one that seems to fit the bill is the Plough...count me in

messageRe: Petition for a Wetherspoons
Posted by Siduhe July 03, 04:25PM

If theyíll take over the Grove Tavern, Iím in.

messageRe: Petition for a Wetherspoons
Posted by TheArtfulDogger July 03, 05:04PM

Insecond siduhe on that, why take over an existing operating pub when there is the perfect one going begging

messageRe: Petition for a Wetherspoons
Posted by KidKruger July 03, 05:29PM

ďAn affordable option for local peopleĒ ?
I donít get that.
Who are the local pubs being patronised by currently, if not local people ?

messageRe: Petition for a Wetherspoons
Posted by teddyboy23 July 03, 06:09PM

Wetherspoons were looking at the cherry tree a couple of years ago . but changed their minds ,according to the previous landlord Gary . do Wetherspoons's do pizzas.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit was july 03, 06:11pm by teddyboy23.

messageRe: Petition for a Wetherspoons
Posted by Loutwo July 03, 06:12PM

KidKruger Wrote:
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> ďAn affordable option for local peopleĒ ?
> I donít get that.
> Who are the local pubs being patronised by
> currently, if not local people ?


Most local options, are not affordable to everyone. We all know Wetherspoons tend to be affordable for a larger demographic.

Louisa.

messageRe: Petition for a Wetherspoons
Posted by mrwb July 03, 06:55PM

I recommend the Crown & Sceptre in SW2.

Was in there last week, 2 pints of pretty decent Adnams beer and packet of crisps for £6.10. Easily accessible from ED on P13.

It used to be a spoons but is now a smaller chain.

Best value pub in London I think?

messageRe: Petition for a Wetherspoons
Posted by malumbu July 03, 07:17PM

Wetherspoons is a necessary evil. One of those places you want to hate and I avoided for years. But as the prices elsewhere go up it sort of breaks you down. There are times when it can be quite scummy and the beer feels like it is the barrel end, other times a better selection and you appreciate the wider demographic. Owner is still an rrsss though, and likes to publicise it too.

Just get on shank's pony or a bus and go up to the Fox or over to the Capitol (interestingly they were trying to sell this). Leave SE22 for those who like to pay %3 or £6 for a drink and the ambiance. Althogh Antic seems to be a good half way house, irrespective of their agenda (essentially investing in real estate)

Youngs was always a good cheap alternative and Fullers now seem to be going this way too.

Finally if you want cheap beer the Canopy is great, if not a pub.

messageRe: Petition for a Wetherspoons
Posted by malumbu July 03, 07:25PM

Forgot you also have the Ivy and the best pub in London, the Blythe Hill Tavern not so far away

messageRe: Petition for a Wetherspoons
Posted by Angelina July 04, 12:00PM

Fully up for that

Two cokes for the kids in the pub in the Village - pennies short of £10

I could almost live with a small bowl of chips for £4.50 until that point. They'd added it up wrong, so my £25 for three cups of chips, two cokes and two ciders became £35.

Will not be going there again.

messageRe: Petition for a Wetherspoons
Posted by tracymcdavis July 04, 12:18PM

Some Whetherspoons have indeed started doing pizza...[www.jdwetherspoon.com] . Not in Peckham last time I was there but did have one down in Ramsgate

messageRe: Petition for a Wetherspoons
Posted by Tosca July 04, 12:24PM

I couldn't possibly support a Weatherspoons because the owner is fiercely pro-Brexit, and has financially and in publicity supported a dishonest (not to say lying) campaign which claims this country would be economically and legally better off outside the EU. The numbers don't stack up - listen to the City, read the material from the Inst. of Fiscal Studies, and listen to the majority of voters in the Labour Party. Ask the Weatherspoons' owner if he supports a no-deal Brexit, and/or Boris Johnson. They're the most relevant questions to answer in the debate about Weatherspoons.....

messageRe: Petition for a Wetherspoons
Posted by uncleglen July 04, 12:33PM

Tosca Wrote:
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> I couldn't possibly support a Weatherspoons
> because the owner is fiercely pro-Brexit, and has
> financially and in publicity supported a dishonest
> (not to say lying) campaign which claims this
> country would be economically and legally better
> off outside the EU. The numbers don't stack up -
> listen to the City, read the material from the
> Inst. of Fiscal Studies, and listen to the
> majority of voters in the Labour Party. Ask the
> Weatherspoons' owner if he supports a no-deal
> Brexit, and/or Boris Johnson. They're the most
> relevant questions to answer in the debate about
> Weatherspoons.....

It's refreshing to read Tim Martin's response to all the Remainiac scare stories. In the 'Spoons magazine he had various contributions from both sides- it was balanced- but you wouldn't have bothered reading that .....the majority of voters (i.e. the champagne socialists) in the labour party are doing very well out of the cheap labour, increased property prices etc etc...it is the POOR people of the UK who have been dispossessed...

messageRe: Petition for a Wetherspoons
Posted by Alan Medic July 04, 12:40PM

Tim Martin is an idiot. If you don't see it, you're an idiot too!

messageRe: Petition for a Wetherspoons
Posted by Loutwo July 04, 12:45PM

Regardless of the owner and his politics, the brand he owns offers a refreshing alternative to all the other pub coís, especially the ones in London, who seem hell bent on dispossessing a huge chunk of the populace by overcharging for drinks and food. The great thing Wetherspoons offer is diversity in clientele as well as a menu which caters for most tastes.

Louisa.

messageRe: Petition for a Wetherspoons
Posted by JohnL July 04, 12:46PM

Who reads the Spoons Mag really smiling smiley

Cheap labour is solved by trade unions/workers councils (the German route) not banning immigrants.

messageRe: Petition for a Wetherspoons
Posted by Angelina July 04, 01:17PM

drinking an politics don't mix.

Let's focus on more people being able to get out and enjoy themselves.

messageRe: Petition for a Wetherspoons
Posted by fishbiscuits July 04, 01:22PM

Petition for a Wetherspoons. Haha. Very good. Because that's exactly how it works... pester them and they'll magically conjure up a suitable premises.

The Grove Tavern is a TERRIBLE location for a pub. Awful. Shite. It will never, ever be a pub again. Flats or a small Tesco seem like the likely future for that place.

messageRe: Petition for a Wetherspoons
Posted by Angelina July 04, 02:11PM

drunk people / main road - what could go wrong?

messageRe: Petition for a Wetherspoons
Posted by DulwichFox July 04, 02:36PM

fishbiscuits Wrote:
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> Petition for a Wetherspoons. Haha. Very good.
> Because that's exactly how it works... pester them
> and they'll magically conjure up a suitable
> premises.
>
> The Grove Tavern is a TERRIBLE location for a pub.
> Awful. Shite. It will never, ever be a pub again.
> Flats or a small Tesco seem like the likely future
> for that place.

It's a Terrible location for Flats. Who would want to live on that Junction ??

DulwichFox

messageRe: Petition for a Wetherspoons
Posted by TheArtfulDogger July 04, 03:21PM

Angelina Wrote:
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> drunk people / main road - what could go wrong?


A natural self culling of drunks perhaps ?

messageRe: Petition for a Wetherspoons
Posted by womanofdulwich July 04, 04:24PM

lidl??

messageRe: Petition for a Wetherspoons
Posted by Loutwo July 04, 05:14PM

A Lidl where the co-op is, and a Wetherspoons where The Grove formerly resided, may work. Although, I have to agree with others the location just isnít right anymore for a public house. I have a few dream wish list locations for a Wetherspoons on LL, but it probably will raise some eyebrows on here no doubt.

Louisa.

messageRe: Petition for a Wetherspoons
Posted by fishbiscuits July 04, 05:30PM

Loutwo Wrote:
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> I have a few dream wish list locations

Are they vacant?

messageRe: Petition for a Wetherspoons
Posted by TheArtfulDogger July 04, 06:54PM

fishbiscuits Wrote:
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> Loutwo Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I have a few dream wish list locations
>
> Are they vacant?

Lou, we could knock your house down and build a wethersoons where it was

messageRe: Petition for a Wetherspoons
Posted by DulwichFox July 04, 07:10PM

I have been a Member of Campaign for Real Ale CAMRA for many years. 25+ ??

Every Year I get 40 Vouchers for (currently) 50p off of a pint of Real Ale or Real Cider
in any participating Weatherspoons Pub.

I have never used these as I Never use any Spoons Pub. Just not a fan.

Foxy

messageRe: Petition for a Wetherspoons
Posted by Loutwo July 04, 08:21PM

DulwichFox Wrote:
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> I have been a Member of Campaign for Real Ale
> CAMRA for many years. 25+ ??
>
> Every Year I get 40 Vouchers for (currently) 50p
> off of a pint of Real Ale or Real Cider
> in any participating Weatherspoons Pub.
>
> I have never used these as I Never use any Spoons
> Pub. Just not a fan.
>
> Foxy

Love them or hate them, spoons are very supportive of CAMRA and always offer decent local ales at reasonable prices. Something certain other chains should take note of.

I get that a Wetherspoons isnít everyoneís cup of tea, often void of personality, but at least they do cater for a wider audience. As chains go, theyíre not bad at offering value for money.

Louisa.

messageRe: Petition for a Wetherspoons
Posted by ed_pete July 04, 10:47PM

Arenít pubs closing at a rate of two a week ?
How many impoverished locals would it take to keep a new pub open ?
Have you tried the Dulwich Constitutional club, I believe their drinks are reasonable.

messageRe: Petition for a Wetherspoons
Posted by OutOfFocus July 04, 11:39PM

>
> It's a Terrible location for Flats. Who would
> want to live on that Junction ??
>

Flats built for living in - old fashioned concept :-)

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