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messageRe: Lovely New Italian Cafe on Lordship Lane
Posted by JoeLeg 25 January, 2018 17:08

Hey Foxy,

Ridiculous you say? Really?


As I have no wish to derail the thread further, Iíve contacted you by PM to explain in detail why you are wrong.



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messageRe: Lovely New Italian Cafe on Lordship Lane
Posted by fishbiscuits 25 January, 2018 17:11

JoeLeg Wrote:
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> DulwichFox Wrote:
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> > With Scrambled Eggs, you can make a big pan of it
> > and keep it warm. (easy)
> > Then just put a dollop of it on toast and you are
> > done.
>
> I cannot begin to describe the multiplicity of
> ways in which doing that in a serving kitchen is
> an invitation to cross-contamination and general
> bacterial infection. Never seen it done, would not
> eat anywhere that does it.

Most hotel breakfast buffets include a big tray of scrambled eggs being kept warm.

My office canteen has a big container of scrambled eggs in the warmer every morning.

It's really, really common.

messageRe: Lovely New Italian Cafe on Lordship Lane
Posted by KrackersMaracas 25 January, 2018 17:15

I guess the difference is that the tray isnít kept in the kitchen alongside other fresh (raw) ingredients?

messageRe: Lovely New Italian Cafe on Lordship Lane
Posted by Penguin68 25 January, 2018 17:24

1. Hotel breakfasts will tend to replenish the scrambled eggs regularly - I suspect there is a clear time over which they are meant to be withdrawn - both for health and taste reasons. I'm thinking about 15-20 minutes, in my experience. They will also make (if they can) only sufficient to meet demand within that time frame.

2. Breakfast service in a cafe will last over 2 or more hours - so a single pan in the kitchen with scrambled egg in it being kept going for that sort of time would taste awful and not be that healthy.

3. Scrambled eggs are always my last choice at any establishment where I think they are not being made fresh - I like smooth and creamy scrambled eggs, not hard curds. They take only a couple of minutes to make. Eggs (for taste) should always be cooked fresh - even where you want an egg quite firmly cooked. Most short order chefs happily manage that.

messageRe: Lovely New Italian Cafe on Lordship Lane
Posted by JoeLeg 25 January, 2018 17:36

Penguin68 essentially gets it.

Eggs are classed as Ďhigh-riskí; if youíre hot-holding them you need to adhere to a strict regime of timings and temperature.

Most places use pre-treated egg products to minimise the risk, which isnít noticeable once theyíve been cooked well done.

messageRe: Lovely New Italian Cafe on Lordship Lane
Posted by fishbiscuits 25 January, 2018 18:39

Yeah, the time limit makes sense, but I don't see how that disproves the practice in a cafť?

I'm not saying that's what they do here though, of course. Just saying that I think it would be possible, in theory, to do it!

I should add that the scrambled eggs at my work are rubbery and disgusting, and I am sure they are made with those nasty cartons of pasteurised liquid egg. Bleugh.

messageRe: Lovely New Italian Cafe on Lordship Lane
Posted by Sue 25 January, 2018 18:52

Those hard overcooked watery scrambled eggs are vile.

messageRe: Lovely New Italian Cafe on Lordship Lane
Posted by JoeLeg 25 January, 2018 20:23

fishbiscuits Wrote:
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> Yeah, the time limit makes sense, but I don't see
> how that disproves the practice in a cafť?
>
> I'm not saying that's what they do here though, of
> course. Just saying that I think it would be
> possible, in theory, to do it!
>
> I should add that the scrambled eggs at my work
> are rubbery and disgusting, and I am sure they are
> made with those nasty cartons of pasteurised
> liquid egg. Bleugh.

Your comment about your work eggs is probably why the cafe concerned donít do it - Iíd bet money the catering operation at your job make them with a pretreated egg product, and as you say they can be pretty bad. If people are liking what that cafe does then Iím sure they make them fresh.

There is no hygienic way to do it Ďen masseí without compromising flavour and texture.



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messageRe: Lovely New Italian Cafe on Lordship Lane
Posted by OutOfFocus 04 February, 2018 00:42

[ratings.food.gov.uk]

2 = improvement necessary.
Have they been reinspected

messageRe: Lovely New Italian Cafe on Lordship Lane
Posted by Caro9429 04 February, 2018 14:05

Anyone know if they have gluten free options on their menu?
smiling smiley

messageRe: Lovely New Italian Cafe on Lordship Lane
Posted by lorraineliyanage 05 February, 2018 22:15

OutOfFocus Wrote:
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> [ratings.food.gov.uk]
> ignoria-Lordship-Lane
>
> 2 = improvement necessary.
> Have they been reinspected

I thought inspections were supposed to take place within the year if it's a low rating. Having said that, my favourite Vietnamese in Camberwell got a 0 rating in Dec 2016 and no update on the Food Hygiene web site :o

messageRe: Lovely New Italian Cafe on Lordship Lane
Posted by jamie816 09 February, 2018 10:23

I really love this place. I was in there last week for breakfast and it was great. Great staff and delicious food.

messageRe: Lovely New Italian Cafe on Lordship Lane
Posted by siousxiesue 09 February, 2018 11:37

Their portions are generous and if you order pasta it's done 'proper', I rarely eat pasta but I will here! Good staff, often see a customer chatting away in Italian to the staff whilst enjoying a civilised long lunch with wine, pure bliss.

messageRe: Lovely New Italian Cafe on Lordship Lane
Posted by Applespider 09 March, 2018 10:07

Stopped in yesterday lunchtime as I was passing. Mum and I had a cake and pastry with two coffees. And it was lovely - the little lemon cake was still warm, the sfoligatto was crisp and the coffee was gorgeous. Sat in the sun by the window, it felt very pleasant.

Others were eating lunch and what we could see going by looked generous for the prices on the menu and did smell good.

Iím not often around LL during the day so hadnít been before. The manager/owner pointed out a sign saying they have just started opening in the evenings on a couple of nights - Fri/Sat - so might give it a go. I cook a lot of Italian but they had a melanzane parmigiana on the specials list that I adore but always find a bit of a faff at home.

messageRe: Lovely New Italian Cafe on Lordship Lane
Posted by Jim1234 09 March, 2018 10:10

OK, seriously, how much are you guys all being paid to promote this place?

messageRe: Lovely New Italian Cafe on Lordship Lane
Posted by fishbiscuits 09 March, 2018 10:42

Just like mamma used-ta make-a.

But what the hell is a sfoligatto?

messageRe: Lovely New Italian Cafe on Lordship Lane
Posted by DulwichFox 09 March, 2018 10:57

fishbiscuits Wrote:
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> Just like mamma used-ta make-a.
>
> But what the hell is a sfoligatto?


I think Applespider meant sfogliato ??

DulwichFox

messageRe: Lovely New Italian Cafe on Lordship Lane
Posted by Applespider 09 March, 2018 11:00

Thatís not what they called it and itís probably not spelled right. I meant one of those little multi-layer pastry horns stuffed with something like Nutella.

Jim - why assume the worst that people are being paid to say something nice? I did decide to try it while passing based on some of the previous comments here. But I posted because I think local places cooking good food at reasonable prices should be shouted about more. And I hadnít known it was now open at night so thought others might want to know too.

messageRe: Lovely New Italian Cafe on Lordship Lane
Posted by DulwichFox 09 March, 2018 11:16

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTpKriCJXyGqkMi1y5MJe49V9ON4tgGgXbQJzRhBDBlK9cuKFTUWw

Sfogliato

messageRe: Lovely New Italian Cafe on Lordship Lane
Posted by Sue 09 March, 2018 11:21

DulwichFox Wrote:
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> KFTUWw
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> Sfogliato


That looks nothing like applespider has described?!

Maybe there are different versions of it.

messageRe: Lovely New Italian Cafe on Lordship Lane
Posted by Dulwichgirl85 09 March, 2018 11:23

Yes I can the coffee is lovely in there!

messageRe: Lovely New Italian Cafe on Lordship Lane
Posted by DulwichFox 09 March, 2018 11:27

Sue Wrote:
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> d9GcTpKriCJXyGqkMi1y5MJe49V9ON4tgGgXbQJzRhBDBlK9cu
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> > KFTUWw
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> > Sfogliato
>
>
> That looks nothing like applespider has
> described?!
>
> Maybe there are different versions of it.

Yes there are different versions

[www.google.co.uk]

messageRe: Lovely New Italian Cafe on Lordship Lane
Posted by rendelharris 09 March, 2018 11:35

Applespider Wrote:
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> Thatís not what they called it and itís probably
> not spelled right. I meant one of those little
> multi-layer pastry horns stuffed with something
> like Nutella.

Sounds more like sfogliatella.

messageRe: Lovely New Italian Cafe on Lordship Lane
Posted by Applespider 09 March, 2018 13:54

So Iíve Googled to try to jog my memeory and I think they were called apollini

They tasted awesome whatever they were

messageRe: Lovely New Italian Cafe on Lordship Lane
Posted by pinecone 09 March, 2018 17:13

La Scala is my favourite cafe.

messageRe: Lovely New Italian Cafe on Lordship Lane
Posted by bonaome 09 March, 2018 22:08

Tried a pre-cinema dinner in Signoria the other night. We had a bruchetta and beef carpaccio, a spaghetti gamborini and a pasta dish with aubergine. All very good. Service nice. Wine fine. Didnít strike me as overly expensive. All in all we thought it was super and will go there again pre-cinema or just for dinner generally.

I am not being paid for this. I have no connection with the restaurant other than having eaten in it once, as described. I am a reasonably regular poster, I think. And I am a real person, as far as I know.

messageRe: Lovely New Italian Cafe on Lordship Lane
Posted by PSJ February 07, 06:32PM

(Whoops, meant to post this in the La Scala thread - Signoria is good too)
I just want to say the breakfasts here are so good, and made with real care. My favourite avocado and poached egg on sourdough in the area. Good coffee too.



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