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messageAssault on Peckham Rye at mid day on Saturday 7th September
Posted by Patricia Allen September 11, 08:30AM

On Saturday I was en route to the fete. Suddenly a man attacked me, pushed me to the ground and kicked at my head and in particular my mouth. A kind lady shouted out she was calling the police and another man who was with the attacker shouted ď donít do that heís autisticĒ The attacker then came at me again kicking me further. The police and ambulance were called. I had put my arms over my head so didnít see the attacker although registered rage in his eyes.I think someone told me he had tried to attack another man but fortunately he had a dog which set on him. I suspect he was mentally unwell and / or on drugs. I was taken to Kings and thankfully my face and skull were only superficially affected but I have lost most of my teeth and my mouth was very sore. I am very shocked. The police told me he had not been caught so he is still wandering around the area. If anyone witnessed this attack, I would be very grateful if you could contact me. A very king lady called Georgie took photos but stupidly I have lost her phone number.Thanks to all those who helped.

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Posted by intexasatthe moment September 11, 08:36AM

Oh Patricia how awful ,you've lost most of your teeth ! You must be in shock '.

Huge sympathy and hope you find the person who took photos .

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Posted by Angelina September 11, 09:45AM

That is just awful. I hope you are ok.
I hope the lady contacts the police. Have they put up witness appeal posters? There must have been lots of people about :-(

messageRe: Assault on Peckham Rye at mid day on Saturday 7th September
Posted by Humdinger September 11, 09:46AM

This sounds awful. I wonder if the man with the attacker tried to intervene? Or told the authorities about the episode? Autistic or not, sounds like this person is a danger to the public and needs to be sectioned or (if no mental problems exist) put behind bars ASAP.

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Posted by Penguin68 September 11, 10:21AM

Violence associated with adult autism is comparatively rare (that is violence by the autistic person - self-harm and violence to an autistic person is more common). Despite the claim made by the 'companion' I would treat the possibility that this person is autistic with great caution. Certainly no one who witnesses such a terrible assault should not call the police - medium secure psychiatric units are designed to provide treatment to people who are diagnosed with psychiatric problems and cannot contain their violent outbursts. And prisons for those without such an excuse.

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Posted by Sally Eva September 11, 10:29AM

I would expect someone whose autism has a potential for danger (to themselves or others) to be out in the community with more than one carer (funded by social services).

How old was this young man, would you say?

messageRe: Assault on Peckham Rye at mid day on Saturday 7th September
Posted by annafb September 11, 10:38AM

I was randomly attacked mid-afternoon a few years ago, my sympathies with Patricia. Sorry Penguin 68, in practice you do have to call the police.
I wasn't as badly hurt and was able to call the police and follow him - he was unaccompanied. When he was (easily) found he advised that he did have mental health issues, I asked the police if he could be taken straight to a secure unit, their response was that if any mental health process/action was to happen the only way to get this action was to have him arrested, they could not just take him straight to the nearest mental health facility e.g. the Maudsley. Eventually the authority moved him to a different part of the borough as he could in theory attack (me) again.

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Posted by Penguin68 September 11, 10:50AM

Sorry Penguin 68, in practice you do have to call the police.

Look at the post again - double negative - I was definitely saying 'call the police'. Certainly no one who witnesses such a terrible assault should not call the police - That is 'anyone who does see ... should call the police'

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Posted by fishbiscuits September 11, 01:44PM

So sorry to hear this Patricia. I hope you have a speedy recovery, and also that you manage to regain your confidence.

Don't let the mental health point become a diversion. If it is true then the correctional process will presumably be different, but the perpetrator still needs to be caught.

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Posted by sarah-marie September 12, 07:15AM

So sorry to hear this I really hope you are feeling less shaken as time goes by. Where abouts were you on the rye.. Makes me worried to go there at all now especially as this happened to you on a Saturday midday and it seems not even in a secluded part as others were around

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Posted by first mate September 12, 08:04AM

For anyone to have most of their teeth kicked out in a random attack by a complete stranger is truly horrendous. Whatever the underlying motivation/reasons for the act, the perpetrator is a danger to the public and should be detained as soon as possible.

I hope you are getting all the support you need.

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Posted by DulwichBorn&Bred September 12, 11:21AM

How utterly awful and terrifying.

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Posted by shoshntosh September 12, 02:19PM

I'm so sorry this happened to you. Sounds genuinely terrifying. Do you have the support you need as you try to move forward?

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Posted by cactus September 13, 11:34AM

My goodness, so very sorry that you've experienced such a terrifying ordeal, I wish you well with your recovery.
Heartened to hear that kind people came to your aid, and I really hope there were witnesses who can come forward to assist you and the police.

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Posted by snoopy17 September 13, 01:04PM

I cant believe no one helped you instead they filmed it on their crappy phones insread of calling the police. plenty of big men around Peckham on Saturdays who probly just watched as if this is an everyday ocurrance.

also pretty shocked that you said you were superficially injured when all your teeth have been kicked out. this should have been on London tonight and wheither the person was a nut makes no difference. this was an awful violent attack and they shouldn't be aloud to get away with it.

also want a disgusting man not getting his friend off you, and trying to excuse the behavior by saying his autistic.
No way was he autistic he was clearly targeting defenceless people.

as if someone who.is autistic called give someone a severe kick in, sounds like a cheap excuse.


what did the attacker look like.

there must be security footage of this.

messageRe: Assault on Peckham Rye at mid day on Saturday 7th September
Posted by Humdinger September 13, 02:45PM

Agreed, who was the man with him? Why did he not try to stop this awful incident?

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Posted by intexasatthe moment September 13, 09:07PM

How are you doing Patricia ? Did Georgie get in touch ?

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Posted by alice Yesterday, 05:16PM

So Patricia, you posted a horrendous account now youíve disappeared. Not responding to the kind comments above.

messageRe: Assault on Peckham Rye at mid day on Saturday 7th September
Posted by Patricia Allen Yesterday, 05:38PM

Iím sorry I havenít responded. Itís been difficult times and no police officer has been allocated. I have now made a complaint because it is 8 days since the incident. Iím also not good on how to respond. I do want to thank everyone for their kind and sympathetic responses. Itís kindness thatís kept me going. Thank you again. I will feel much better when the police do something

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Posted by alice Yesterday, 05:43PM

Hopefully that will be very soon.

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Posted by binkylilyput Yesterday, 05:59PM

Am I understanding this correctly? This poor person has had her teeth kicked out and no police officer has been allocated for 8 days? What the h*ll? This is GBH with intent and police arenít responding?

So sorry this has happened Patricia Allen, you will understandably feel very traumatised. I hope you have loved ones caring for you.

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Posted by wonderwoman Yesterday, 10:31PM

This is dreadful could one of the councillors on here help perhaps escalate matters? It is concerning that someone whatever the reason has this type of aggressive behaviour is not responded to given the risk to others and possibly themselves.


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